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	<title>Comments on: REVIEW: The Year&#8217;s Best Science Fiction # 23 edited by Gardner Dozois</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Gillies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Gillies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I&#160;subscribe to&#160;the Writing Magazine and read their article on your having an offer for your next three books, all based on a one chapter and synopsis accepted on your current book and had wanted to read it? But can&#039;t find it amongst all your stuff? You couldn&#039;t send it as an e-mail could you please, as the rating for it was so good . . I would love to see it! Am a budding writer myself, but getting past the big boots squashing them is hell! Would like to see what you&#039;ve written please?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Many thanks,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Chris.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&nbsp;subscribe to&nbsp;the Writing Magazine and read their article on your having an offer for your next three books, all based on a one chapter and synopsis accepted on your current book and had wanted to read it? But can&#8217;t find it amongst all your stuff? You couldn&#8217;t send it as an e-mail could you please, as the rating for it was so good . . I would love to see it! Am a budding writer myself, but getting past the big boots squashing them is hell! Would like to see what you&#8217;ve written please?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Many thanks,</p>
<p>Chris.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoops!  My apologies.  I wish I could blame my poor typing skills on this one.  :-S  I&#039;ve updated the other post.

Thanks for the info on your writing process.  I&#039;ve always wondered if collaborating makes it easier for authors, or if the logistics/creative process differences makes it more difficult.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops!  My apologies.  I wish I could blame my poor typing skills on this one.  :-S  I&#8217;ve updated the other post.</p>
<p>Thanks for the info on your writing process.  I&#8217;ve always wondered if collaborating makes it easier for authors, or if the logistics/creative process differences makes it more difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: Derryl Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derryl Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John,

Derryl with a second r, not Deryl. On the plus side, people usually make the mistake of spelling it Darryl, so you&#039;re very original there. I see you&#039;ve got my name that way in the blog list as well.

Enough pickiness. The key to collaborating, I&#039;ve found, is to live very far away from each other so you can have breathing space and not want to commit violence. :) This story took us a few years, mostly because we each had so many other things on the go. I&#039;m in the middle of a similar process with William Shunn right now, and he lives even further away than Peter.

A general idea of the plot is important, so that you both have a road map (sounds sensible, but I do sometimes start a story without any idea where it&#039;s going to end up). Even then, all sorts of false starts came up first time out. Yeah, we each would write a section, go until we thought it seemed like a logical break, and then would hand it off. On my end, each time it came back I would backtrack and edit, which gave me a better sense of where we were going. Once wrapped up, Geoff Ryman (who edited the original anthology, along with Nalo Hopkinson) worked closely with us on a few issues, and the story is definitely stronger for it.

The idea came when Peter and I were in the same room and bitching about a novel by an unnamed famous author, and decided we could better handle the central conceit. Of course, the end result resembles in no way our starting point.

D

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>Derryl with a second r, not Deryl. On the plus side, people usually make the mistake of spelling it Darryl, so you&#8217;re very original there. I see you&#8217;ve got my name that way in the blog list as well.</p>
<p>Enough pickiness. The key to collaborating, I&#8217;ve found, is to live very far away from each other so you can have breathing space and not want to commit violence. <img src='http://www.sfsignal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  This story took us a few years, mostly because we each had so many other things on the go. I&#8217;m in the middle of a similar process with William Shunn right now, and he lives even further away than Peter.</p>
<p>A general idea of the plot is important, so that you both have a road map (sounds sensible, but I do sometimes start a story without any idea where it&#8217;s going to end up). Even then, all sorts of false starts came up first time out. Yeah, we each would write a section, go until we thought it seemed like a logical break, and then would hand it off. On my end, each time it came back I would backtrack and edit, which gave me a better sense of where we were going. Once wrapped up, Geoff Ryman (who edited the original anthology, along with Nalo Hopkinson) worked closely with us on a few issues, and the story is definitely stronger for it.</p>
<p>The idea came when Peter and I were in the same room and bitching about a novel by an unnamed famous author, and decided we could better handle the central conceit. Of course, the end result resembles in no way our starting point.</p>
<p>D</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Kiesche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Kiesche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hah! No, Fred was operating on one cylinder, with a seven year old asking questions in one ear and a wife asking questions in the other...

I thought that John was referring to the Vonda McInytre story in Best SF 11 not the character McInytre in the MacLeod story. It&#039;s the drugs. Or the booze. Or the PTSD. Take your pick.

I&#039;ll go home now and hang my head in shame.

:O

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah! No, Fred was operating on one cylinder, with a seven year old asking questions in one ear and a wife asking questions in the other&#8230;</p>
<p>I thought that John was referring to the Vonda McInytre story in Best SF 11 not the character McInytre in the MacLeod story. It&#8217;s the drugs. Or the booze. Or the PTSD. Take your pick.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go home now and hang my head in shame.</p>
<p>:O</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hah!  I totally missed that connection.  Now Fred&#039;s comment makes sense.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah!  I totally missed that connection.  Now Fred&#8217;s comment makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Niall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I assumed that Fred was suggesting that &quot;A bit preachy (as could be expected) and borderline uninteresting&quot; would have been better as a description of &quot;Little Faces&quot; than &quot;A Case of Consilience&quot;. If so, I disagree. I think McIntyre&#039;s story is a lot more interesting, and a lot more nuanced, than Macleod&#039;s.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assumed that Fred was suggesting that &#8220;A bit preachy (as could be expected) and borderline uninteresting&#8221; would have been better as a description of &#8220;Little Faces&#8221; than &#8220;A Case of Consilience&#8221;. If so, I disagree. I think McIntyre&#8217;s story is a lot more interesting, and a lot more nuanced, than Macleod&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 03:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deryl,

Thanks for the link!  I&#039;ve updated the post.  And I&#039;ve added you (and a bunch of others) to our ever-growing list of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/002815.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sf/f authors who blog&lt;/a&gt;.  Also, I&#039;m curious, how does a writing collaboration work, logistically?  Is it alternating passages?  Does one of you come up with the ideas and the other execute?  Just wondering...

Fred,

Since I read that story in the Hartwell/Cramer, it was a simple cut &amp; paste - no need to re-review, eh?  Not sure what you mean with the McIntyre/MacLeod confusion comment, though.  McIntyre was the character&#039;s name in the story.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deryl,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link!  I&#8217;ve updated the post.  And I&#8217;ve added you (and a bunch of others) to our ever-growing list of <a href="http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/002815.html" rel="nofollow">sf/f authors who blog</a>.  Also, I&#8217;m curious, how does a writing collaboration work, logistically?  Is it alternating passages?  Does one of you come up with the ideas and the other execute?  Just wondering&#8230;</p>
<p>Fred,</p>
<p>Since I read that story in the Hartwell/Cramer, it was a simple cut &#038; paste &#8211; no need to re-review, eh?  Not sure what you mean with the McIntyre/MacLeod confusion comment, though.  McIntyre was the character&#8217;s name in the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Kiesche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Kiesche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In your entry for the MacLeod story you say...

&quot;Review: A bit preachy (as could be expected) and borderline uninteresting until McIntyre slips and falls in the quicksand that is home to alien.&quot;

Methinks you were consulting your Hartwell/Cramer Best SF #11 review and got McIntyre confused with MacLeod. Different sides of the ocean, different sexes, different levels of experience...

:-S

On the plus side, there&#039;s relatively little overlap between this and the Hartwell/Cramer megathology. On the negative side, I was hoping that more of my work on my own review had been done by now with my reading of the Hartwell/Cramer collection!

&#124;-)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your entry for the MacLeod story you say&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Review: A bit preachy (as could be expected) and borderline uninteresting until McIntyre slips and falls in the quicksand that is home to alien.&#8221;</p>
<p>Methinks you were consulting your Hartwell/Cramer Best SF #11 review and got McIntyre confused with MacLeod. Different sides of the ocean, different sexes, different levels of experience&#8230;</p>
<p>:-S</p>
<p>On the plus side, there&#8217;s relatively little overlap between this and the Hartwell/Cramer megathology. On the negative side, I was hoping that more of my work on my own review had been done by now with my reading of the Hartwell/Cramer collection!</p>
<p>|-)</p>
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		<title>By: Derryl Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derryl Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks. Interesting to see where our tastes converge and where they diverge. Incidentally, Peter put up a PDF of &quot;Mayfly&quot; for the world to see: http://rifters.com/real/shorts/Watts_Murphy_Mayfly.pdf and non-PDF can be found here: http://rifters.com/real/shorts.htm

Derryl

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. Interesting to see where our tastes converge and where they diverge. Incidentally, Peter put up a PDF of &#8220;Mayfly&#8221; for the world to see: <a href="http://rifters.com/real/shorts/Watts_Murphy_Mayfly.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://rifters.com/real/shorts/Watts_Murphy_Mayfly.pdf</a> and non-PDF can be found here: <a href="http://rifters.com/real/shorts.htm" rel="nofollow">http://rifters.com/real/shorts.htm</a></p>
<p>Derryl</p>
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