Heroes Season 2 Officially Sucks
I have not hidden that fact that I have a love/hate relationship with Heroes. I warmed up to the show in Season 1 despite my early annoyance and later misgivings. But in season 2, all my fears are becoming realized. The show is officially lame.
Why?
Jeez…where do I start?
The plot is going nowhere
Events that should take one or two episodes to occur are dragging on an on without any foreseeable end. Hiro is still stuck in feudal Japan; Peter still has amnesia (despite finally learning his true identity); Claire is still playing cheerleader; the south-of-the-border Wonder Twins are still short of arriving in America; Sylar is still a neutered threat; Suresh and Parkman are still playing “My Two Dads” with the last-minute child-hero from last season; Suresh is still doing nothing to take down The Company; Nikki is still…well…Nikki. Every show seems like a reworded repeat of the week before. This is not television, this is a broken record.
Characters say and do stupid things
Did anyone balk at the time amnesiac Peter was presented with his “identity box”? For the life of me, I could not buy into the girl talking him out of it. It made absolutely no sense. To add insult to injury, the very next episode started with the girl asking why Peter did not open the box. WTF? The writers thought they could brush it off with some “I did it so you would kiss me” nonsense. I’m not buying it. More likely, the writers wrote in some artificial drama to end one episode, but needed it to happen anyway to suit some other plot direction they wanted. Do us a favor, guys, and stay consistent. Artificial drama is not dramatic – it’s a cheat.
Promises not kept
Where is the new batch of heroes we were supposed to see? OK, so we have the Wonder Twins, Kristin Bell, Midas Touch Bob, Parkan’s Dad and Memory Girl. All used to no good effect. (Repeat powers? Show some imagination!) What’s the point of having them at all besides diluting all the other stories you’re trying to (unsuccessfully) juggle? At least Claire’s creepy stalker boyfriend (with his sad, duplicate power) has some possibilities. The writers need to give this show a super-enema and they need to do it quickly.
Poor planning/writing
I attribute all of this to poor planning and poor writing. It seems like they have no idea the direction they want the show to take. At least with this week’s episode they seem to foreshadow this season’s threat. And – lo and behold – it’s Season 1′s threat all over again! Lame. I liked it better last season when they had the “save the Cheerleader” mini-arcs. The proposed threat of season 2 takes place in June of 2008, which conveniently coincides with the end of the TV season. So, they are going to drag this out for another 8 months. Spare me.
For the life of me, I cannot explain why I just don’t tune out. The best I can come up with is that (1) I hang on for the slim hope it will get better, and/or (2) the fear that it will get better once I stop tuning in. The truth is that, in season 2, I get less entertainment from the show itself and more fun out of figuring out why it’s gotten so bad.
I really, really want to like this show but the writers are making it too damn hard. I see that others (like Jayme Lynn Blaschke) have voiced similar complaints. And now comes the news that spinoff Heroes: Origins has been shelved. Hmmm…is that because of the writers’ strike or because season 2 is “teh suck” and ratings are in the crapper? I know my answer!
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I think that you are all demanding a little too much because the show was so phenomenal in its first series. This means it set itself some very high goals indeed for a second series. I don’t think it’s lingered on the plot at all. I have witnessed some truly awful television in my time, and Heroes is nowhere near that category (season 1 or 2!!).
I rate the second season very highly, though it could do with a few more plot twists and some turns and unexpected drama (which was incredibly overdone in the first season to a rather shocking, but pleasant, audience response).
I would like to see any of you guys sit down and write something better that doesn’t put it’s enormous feet on the famous X-Men comic books.
The programme is still heroic to me… pun totally intended.
heroes is actually doing great!!love it!!:D
yeah I agree with the last posts..
you guys don’t seem to get the real deal of the story..
well, yes, there are instances where it kinda sucks but on the bright side it is still cool..
besides there is no such thing “always interesting”…
you may try watching your own life story on TV and I’ll assure you in a few minutes you’ll long for heroes instead… lol
i think these last few poster are demanding too little from the TV they watch; apparently, even “heroes” is more interesting their real lives. i hate to say it but real life is ALWAYS more interesting; if not, perhaps you should look within and see what’s missing. so why watch tv? well, to live that which can’t be lived in real life — engaging in a fantasical world that’s not possible in our day-to-day. given the choice, i would always choose the red pill, wouldn’t you?
Either Should have stopped after the first series… or the writers and tim kring should have spent a lot longer i wouldnt have mind to wait 6 months+ for a decent plot..
There were all sorts of continuity errors and peter petrelli became more and more stupid, idiotic and ridiculous as the show went on, the regenerating blood also meant nobody could die. Peter could have simply walked through walls of the vault not do some stupid telekineses cr@p
And the annoying claires stalker boyfriend was utterly cringeworthy and made me turn to the sick bucket. i only wished he flew into an aeroplane engine.
In general most Sci Fi shows are not great 1st season heroes is good and there are precious few others.
what was the point of the crying twin and the copy cat girl? partmans dad was supposed to be some ultra mega villian and flopped like an old boy who couldnt get it up (although the promise of his powers was really good).
there was a serious lack of purpose and was pointless throughout…what they could have done was tend towards the future episode in the first series (where hiro looked quite cool!)
anyway i give up on it too cringeworthy and annoying… they should call it “losers”
haha “they should call it ‘losers’”
you just ruined your whole argument…
Heroes is a T.V. show. A pretty good one too. I hope it lasts a while and I like when everything isn’t given to you in the very beginning. It’s a story that I’m willing to wait on.
And Allie if you have netflix you can watch all of season 1 and 2 on their website.
*spoilers included – but mostly imaginary ideas for the show*
Heroes season 1 had an excellent buildup and created some fantastic characters, which is very difficult to do in a first season for any series. I personally think that the very ending of the season was weak, and didn’t particularly make sense. After a whole season of some excellent ideas it was such a rushed, basic ending with some big holes that I did find myself a bit disappointed. I liked the way they were all there at the climax, but there wasn’t the collaboration between them all I would have liked.
Season 2 has so far not only clearly affected by the surprise of even having a second series, but things like the writers strike definitely meant that a basic idea was written but had no polish or deep storyline. It felt more like a filler-season trying to hold the series in place with the fans until they could get a proper third season written, and perhaps get some more writers to come up with some more involved ideas.
I’ve always seen Niki as a weak character, but the possibilities she has shown did hint towards her having a whole array of multiple personalities. If this was expanded for her to have different powers depending on her personality this could make things much more interested. It could be explained as a physical flux depending on the brain activity (they said that the body is essentially just the vehicle the brain travels in). However, if she is now dead the possibilities she had are gone.
The re-introduction of ‘new’ paintings from Isaac Menendez seemed like a desperate move. They either needed to let him rest or bring the character back – perhaps with Hiro going and ‘collecting’ him from the past. We have already seen that the timeline is not set in stone and that things can be changed.
Sylar is an excellent character, well acted. However, I would like to see him not just regain his abilities, but to meet his match, ideally in a female character – or at least to be more than he’s been shown to be so far.
Things I would like to see included in the future of Heroes. Feel free to comment, politely, please:
1. A female Hero or ‘assistant’ that isn’t trim, buff, pretty, tanned, and pretty much showing off her *ss and figure most of the time. I wouldn’t mind seeing a Niki-fit character beaten down by the powers of someone with, shall we say, a few more curves… (Yes, I know Charlie isn’t showing it off all the time, but she’s so pretty!).
2. Nathan Petrelli’s wife giving birth to a child, but then it turning out that she has powers, and she and Nathan were matchmade by Nathan/Peter’s mother from a long time back. Peter’s nephew turning to the ‘dark side’ of Heroism could be a serious family twist.
3. Niki surviving and having a whole host of personalities, having different powers per each different personality (as already suggested). Along with that, one of those personalities should be a drinker (Niki was an alcoholic).
4. A better example and focus of Sylar’s abilities. The focus always seems to be on telekinesis. He’s been going around killing loads of Heroes. The abilities of people like Charlie should be emphasised more. You’d think that someone with such a thirst for powers and understanding how things work would spend a few months reading everything he could possibly find to expand his knowledge and intelligence to fantastical levels.
5. A more international flavour to the series, and make it a REAL international flavour. eg. British people are not over-accented American actors with bad teeth. The world map showed Heroes all over the world, not the world ending because one city has a bomb set off. Believe it or not, the rest of the world would be shocked, but we won’t all collapse and die because one US city has an disaster.
6. I can accept that it is difficult to think up new powers that haven’t already been thought of by the various comic-book writers out there, but there are plenty of abilities to adjust or have a new-take on. We don’t need more and more flying boys – I find they’re a put off.
7. A bit more intelligence where it comes to certain things. A kid telling a phone to work properly? If it’s broken it’s not just a case of telling it to work, and it strikes me that the basic mechanical function of electronic switches is something the writers might need to RESEARCH.
8. That flying boyfriend of Clare’s needs to be roasted over a slow fire and never seen again – what a turd.
9. Peter Petrelli needs to start accidentally picking up powers. As he walks through a city he comes into near contact with ALOT of people – if he suddenly gains an ability that he really can’t control that DOESN’T involve blowing up it could be fun – especially when he may not even realise it and it comes out at exactly the wrong time. The sudden expansion to 50′ tall in the middle of a city could cause some controversy
10. I would like to see saving the cheerleader becoming a staple of the series, to the point of becoming a running joke, and even mistakes later on – like it turning out a couple of series on that Clare was never the cheerleader that was supposed to be saved.
11. Sylar stalks Clare and falls in love with her…and she eventually reciprocates – but against her will due to it being either an enforced-under-threat attraction, Stockholm Syndrome, or even a power that Sylar picks up but only affects certain people.
12. I would like to see what Sylar actually does beyond lop the tops off of heads.
13. Sylar’s talent with the powers he steals is undeniable, but if he bashes in a brain or takes the power of someone with a damaged brain (Charlie for example) mayhap the power he takes from someone is damaged as well, and he pays the consequences for taking a broken ability.
14. Parkman fights Sylar – and wins….several times. Sylar being in a position where he just can’t beat Parkman no matter what he tries would really give the non-trim-and-fit viewer the boost that the slightly heavier-set guy wins against a big bad.
15. The inclusion of one of each of the original Star Trek actors each season might be something they are already going for – it seems to be starting that way.
16. Having Sylar (played by Zachary Quinto, who is playing Spock in the new Star Trek movie) kill and take the power of a character played by Leonard Nimoy would be amusingly symbolic (although I think that a mind-meld power might be taking the coincidence a little too far).
17. The religious aspect of these powers could be abused. (I personally don’t believe in religion – so if you’re easily offended by ideas based around your religions then don’t read this point). If suddenly out of the Middle East comes a man with the ability to physically convert anything, for example, water to wine – the religious aspects could create a whole new faction to contend with – and not one that is easily going to go away quickly. Writing that could be a commentary on the behaviour of the various religious institutions (the Vatican, for example) could add a bit more real-world flavour to the mix.
Well…these are just a few comments and ideas. I’d love to be a writer for a show like Heroes – the scope for expansion is huge – provided the writers stick with the concept of thinking up ideas rather than pandering to corporate numbers.
From the first moment my friends told me about the show i was hooked ! I think that the lines get abit to confusing though cause i miss the first 5 minutes of one and i was lost so i had to watch it again to figuer out what the heck was going on .8o| But I dont know if they can think of enough things for a third season , but who knows what they will come up with ………………. ( scrubs is well ace though ) lmaoo , lol
I’m sorry but this second season of heroes was just annoying, to reply to a previous post there are programs that are “Always Interesting” like LOST and House, especially LOST, and a lot of you are right the season did drag on and there should have been more writing time, but this crappy second season will make a lot of people not want to watch any further, and they should bin the third season whilst there still behind
Like something from a restless night of tossing and turning where you awake in a cold sweat from a faintly familiar, yet undeniably terrifying nightmare — and you process the spooky imagery and phantom sounds all day long until it congeals into a psychotic panorama of horrific imagery and formerly forgotten memories both dangerous and dreadful. And you can’t help but stop everything you’re doing and scream and scream AND SCREAM!!!!!!!!!
That’s what watching the Season 3 Heroes teasers has been like for me. How about you?
Suffice it to say I’ll be watching if only to roll my eyes at the slow pacing and continuous restating of every single dumbed down plot point for Heroes dumbed down mass-appeal audience.
And also to see how the “villains” manage to make me despise them more than I already hate the “heroes.” (Seriously writers? The villains are really breaking out from a super-villain prison? I mean, seriously? Was every other villain cliche taken?)
But then again – in a television horizon populated by even more JJ Abrams and a new Joss Whedon series, I’m not certain Heroes Season 3 will be able to make the cut this time around.
i am so mad… i just bought all season 2
i thouht it was going to be awsome…. heroes vrs. villains…
i just wasted 25 $s common
the second season is so short it last like 2 hours
if i m spending buying it
at least u should put more to it
you guy s repeat the same thing everytme another episode start
i dont lke heroes anymore
and a lot of people is saying the same
common try something better
make us wanna watch it!!!
Just finished watching Season 2 with my wife. After enduring the first half of Battlestar Craptastica, which had us writhing in pain at it’s stunning ability to take itself too seriously while beating us over the head with bad bad bad writing, we were looking forward to Season 2 of Heroes with sunny optimism. Five episodes into the show we were writhing in pain on the couch and wondering aloud WTF?
* Peter with Amnesia – lame.
* Claire’s puty, self-indulgent storyline with smirky, know-it-all fly boy, all lamenting their woes at being “special”. The romance failed. Claire induced buffy-levels of loathing.
* The… extremely…. slow… pace… of… development, with each “miniscene” having obvious forshadowing. Seriously, you could probably take each scene in a show and turn it into a one-line bullet. One wonders if the script was that simple.
* Sylar – only ths actor’s ability to make something out of nothing saved this story. The brother/sister pair he’s tagging along with are dragged down by the sister’s claire-like levels of stupidity.
* Okay – so Hiro’s hero is the new bad guy. But the intervening 400 years are not explained, and Adam himself never makes a concincing case for his own actions. He gives his bad-guy soliloquy, but I honestly couldn’t believe it.
* Season 1 was literally a “stop the bomb” story line. Season 2 is a “stop the neutron bomb” story line. Forshadowed EXACTLY the same way Season 1 did. One can imagine the writer’s shouting “Originality for the loss!”
* What exactly is up with “the original generation?” Are they all Adam’s great * 20 grandchildren? Half of them are offed without us ever knowing what they could do.
Oh well. It seems Kring has publically copped to the criticisms Season 2 has received. I’ll cross my fingers for Season 3, but if it continues to suck I’m bailing.
WELL ROB,
Get ready to BAIL dude, because season 3 is lame.
Tim Kring messed Heroes up because he stole it and those two artists in NYC and their lawsuit changed his con game that he ran on the viewing public.
Tim Kring is a loser and a clown.
And his boss ZUCKER, IS A SUCKER.
Season 2 was preety lame they were trying to re create season 1 with peter with amnesia but hiro Takezo/adam thing is preety cool. Rob i have some advice DONT BAIL OUT.
something that is lame is the season 1 storyline was “save the cheerleader” now they are almost throwing claire out only keeping her in with some preety boy who can fly. anyway im going and to rob please dont bail out its going to get better it was mainly because of the writers strike.
I somewhat agree with you. And it really angers me about how there is 22 episodes in the first season and only 11 in the second.
Hi Guys all the negative comments about season 2…… I TOTALLY Agree with.
First off: I watched all of season one to see someone kill sylar for good. It was predictable that sylar would escape from Bennet’s company office, but we all want him to die in the end.
Then what happens? they come up with a lame excuse like we saved you from the square. If i was Hiro as if i wouldnt check to see that Sylar is dead.
Lame, i mean wtf peter losing his memory is the lamest plot line ever. So lame considering he spent most of season one learning his powers.
I think Nathan Petrelli’s character is the only character that is right.
I hate the fact that all the characters from season one are back, even the ones that are supposed to be dead. Thats real lame come on we don’t really miss any of them if they are gone anyway.
Does anybody notice that MOLLY CAN’T ACT?
Why can Maya understand pure english but her brother does not understand 1 word? not even when sylar says “i’m kill you once i get my powers back”. as if you wouldn’t understand that. ALso, get to F**king america already.
Claire’s boyfriend, the dumb F*** that keeps annoying her and talking to her about being herself, he is one annoying f*ker and if anyone was like that to me at school as if you wouldn’t tell him to F Off.Claire keeps letting him talk shit, perhaps she wants to get sexually assualted again like in season 1.
Anyone noticed that she got over that too well and too soon in season 1?
Anyways the end of season 1 where Peter and SYlar stand and duel, that was the coolest scene of the entire series. What happened? THey fought for like 2 seconds, mega sigh. I was about to Jizz in my pants.
The Japanese girl Yaeko is pretty sexy……..she should have powers too, BECAUSE IT SEEMS EVERY FKING CHARACTER HAS POWERS IN HEROES. SO Freaking Lame.
Wish i had Hiro’s powers, then i can turn back time and cut off this FKING show.