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	<title>Comments on: Iain M. Banks&#8217; Culture (Finally) Heads to the Big Screen</title>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i love all his books, the excession being my personal fave but i dont see a mega (by todays blockbuster budgets)amount of wonger being needed to make a great movie of THE STATE OF THE ART.good eco message inside too.if i ever get to be a billionare i would make them all into very tasty movies.dream on.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love all his books, the excession being my personal fave but i dont see a mega (by todays blockbuster budgets)amount of wonger being needed to make a great movie of THE STATE OF THE ART.good eco message inside too.if i ever get to be a billionare i would make them all into very tasty movies.dream on&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi Dewilde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi Dewilde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I still have to read the first bad Iain M. Banks story. He&#039;s my favourite living author. I don&#039;t know what&#039;s the matter with &lt;strong&gt;Matter&lt;/strong&gt; (oh: the pun!) as I enjoyed it very much. The only one I had trouble with was Feersum Endjinn, but that&#039;s because my knowledge of English, and especially the slang was not up to par.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My favourites are &lt;strong&gt;The Algebraist&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;Player of Games&lt;/strong&gt;. But my favourite book ever is from Iain Banks without the M.: &lt;strong&gt;The Wasp Factory&lt;/strong&gt; isn&#039;t SciFi, but serious weird stuff anyway...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hope they do his culture novels justice. It will makes the Star Wars universe look very, very bleak, I think (although I still love it too).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can&#039;t wait to see it...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have to read the first bad Iain M. Banks story. He&#8217;s my favourite living author. I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s the matter with <strong>Matter</strong> (oh: the pun!) as I enjoyed it very much. The only one I had trouble with was Feersum Endjinn, but that&#8217;s because my knowledge of English, and especially the slang was not up to par.</p>
<p>My favourites are <strong>The Algebraist</strong> and <strong>Player of Games</strong>. But my favourite book ever is from Iain Banks without the M.: <strong>The Wasp Factory</strong> isn&#8217;t SciFi, but serious weird stuff anyway&#8230;</p>
<p>I hope they do his culture novels justice. It will makes the Star Wars universe look very, very bleak, I think (although I still love it too).</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Corning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Corning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;Also, yes, Use of Weapons is an exceptional space opera but it is also the least challenging of the Culture novels&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No idea how a scifi novel or any novel can be &quot;challenging&quot;. I have read all the culture books and if i found them challenging i would have stopped reading them. Why read something for enjoyment that is hard to read?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I guess a &quot;challenging&quot; novel in my view would be a badly written novel.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Also, yes, Use of Weapons is an exceptional space opera but it is also the least challenging of the Culture novels</p>
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<p>No idea how a scifi novel or any novel can be &#8220;challenging&#8221;. I have read all the culture books and if i found them challenging i would have stopped reading them. Why read something for enjoyment that is hard to read?</p>
<p>I guess a &#8220;challenging&#8221; novel in my view would be a badly written novel.</p>
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		<title>By: ubik</title>
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		<dc:creator>ubik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;This could be awesome! I&#039;m glad they picked up this story, but I&#039;m quite worried about how they are going to treat the transgender/gay angle of the story.... I suspect they are just going to &quot;straighten it up&quot; and turn the main character into a badly disguised &quot;woman in pants&quot;, 50&#039;s comedy style, or just give him a girlfriend instead of a boyfriend.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could be awesome! I&#8217;m glad they picked up this story, but I&#8217;m quite worried about how they are going to treat the transgender/gay angle of the story&#8230;. I suspect they are just going to &#8220;straighten it up&#8221; and turn the main character into a badly disguised &#8220;woman in pants&#8221;, 50&#8242;s comedy style, or just give him a girlfriend instead of a boyfriend.</p>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I have to revise my earlier comment, I &lt;em&gt;have &lt;/em&gt;read the short story in&#160;question, I just didn&#039;t remember it without some further prodding. The fact it didn&#039;t make that much of an impression on my, and the lack of the widescreen aspects of the other &lt;strong&gt;Culture &lt;/strong&gt;novels, doesn&#039;t bode well for me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And &lt;strong&gt;Use of Weapons&lt;/strong&gt; is my favorite Banks &lt;strong&gt;Culture&lt;/strong&gt; novel. I didn&#039;t realize I&#039;d rather go back and read Alan Dean Foster. Maybe I&#039;ll go find some &lt;strong&gt;Flinx &lt;/strong&gt;books.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to revise my earlier comment, I <em>have </em>read the short story in&nbsp;question, I just didn&#8217;t remember it without some further prodding. The fact it didn&#8217;t make that much of an impression on my, and the lack of the widescreen aspects of the other <strong>Culture </strong>novels, doesn&#8217;t bode well for me.</p>
<p>And <strong>Use of Weapons</strong> is my favorite Banks <strong>Culture</strong> novel. I didn&#8217;t realize I&#8217;d rather go back and read Alan Dean Foster. Maybe I&#8217;ll go find some <strong>Flinx </strong>books.</p>
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		<title>By: tbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>tbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Yet another post at this blog trumpeting material the post&#039;s author has not read.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dude, he said he read the short story that&#039;s been optioned. Maybe you should drop your SF nerd desire to be smarter than everyone else in the room and brush up on your reading comprehension skills before criticising others.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yet another post at this blog trumpeting material the post&#8217;s author has not read.&#8221;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Dude, he said he read the short story that&#8217;s been optioned. Maybe you should drop your SF nerd desire to be smarter than everyone else in the room and brush up on your reading comprehension skills before criticising others.</p>
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		<title>By: Flea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Yet another post at this blog trumpeting material the post&#039;s author has not read. Pathetic. A note to all of you: Read a book.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, yes, Use of Weapons is an exceptional space opera but it is also the least challenging of the Culture novels; a fanboy telling you it is his favourite is telling you he would rather go back to reading Alan Dean Foster (NTTIAWWT).&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another post at this blog trumpeting material the post&#8217;s author has not read. Pathetic. A note to all of you: Read a book.</p>
<p>Also, yes, Use of Weapons is an exceptional space opera but it is also the least challenging of the Culture novels; a fanboy telling you it is his favourite is telling you he would rather go back to reading Alan Dean Foster (NTTIAWWT).</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I had never read Banks until this summer, when I read Consider Phelbas.&#160; I will never read another Banks&#039; novel again.&#160; The characters are boring and he never made me like or dislike any of them.&#160; Plus, he wasn&#039;t very good at creating suspense.&#160; The train scene at the end is so drawn out, as to make it unreadable.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That being said, I think the description of his universe sounds interesting, so maybe the directors and script writers can do better than the creator.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had never read Banks until this summer, when I read Consider Phelbas.&nbsp; I will never read another Banks&#8217; novel again.&nbsp; The characters are boring and he never made me like or dislike any of them.&nbsp; Plus, he wasn&#8217;t very good at creating suspense.&nbsp; The train scene at the end is so drawn out, as to make it unreadable.&nbsp;</p>
<p>That being said, I think the description of his universe sounds interesting, so maybe the directors and script writers can do better than the creator.</p>
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		<title>By: joshua corning</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshua corning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Use of Weapons is the only exceptional book of the series...all others are fun but come no where near it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Read that one and you have pretty much read all of them.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use of Weapons is the only exceptional book of the series&#8230;all others are fun but come no where near it.</p>
<p>Read that one and you have pretty much read all of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Rakunas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Rakunas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Please don&#039;t suck, please don&#039;t suck, please don&#039;t suck, please don&#039;t suck...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t suck, please don&#8217;t suck, please don&#8217;t suck, please don&#8217;t suck&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TheAdlerian</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheAdlerian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Look to Windward:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It mirrored the events of 911, and came out shortly before.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Amazing.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Look to Windward:</strong></p>
<p>It mirrored the events of 911, and came out shortly before.</p>
<p>Amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Matte Lozenge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matte Lozenge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The Culture novels attain a uniform, good level of quality generally. They tend to blend together, with occasional set pieces and sequences standing out. The first four -- &lt;strong&gt;Consider Phlebas, The Player of Games,  Use of Weapons, and Excession&lt;/strong&gt; -- are stronger than the more recent &lt;strong&gt; Inversions, Look to Windward &lt;/strong&gt;and &lt;strong&gt;Matter&lt;/strong&gt;. &lt;strong&gt;Feersum Endjinn&lt;/strong&gt; is about the same quality as the first four Culture novels, although its phonetic spelling is a tiresome gimmick. My favorite Banks space opera is &lt;strong&gt;The Algebraist&lt;/strong&gt;. It&#039;s fully in the spirit of the Culture novels, even though technically it&#039;s not the same universe.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Culture novels attain a uniform, good level of quality generally. They tend to blend together, with occasional set pieces and sequences standing out. The first four &#8212; <strong>Consider Phlebas, The Player of Games,  Use of Weapons, and Excession</strong> &#8212; are stronger than the more recent <strong> Inversions, Look to Windward </strong>and <strong>Matter</strong>. <strong>Feersum Endjinn</strong> is about the same quality as the first four Culture novels, although its phonetic spelling is a tiresome gimmick. My favorite Banks space opera is <strong>The Algebraist</strong>. It&#8217;s fully in the spirit of the Culture novels, even though technically it&#8217;s not the same universe.</p>
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		<title>By: TheAdlerian</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheAdlerian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Almost all the culture novels are about a giant game played by the Culture AI. The book, The Player of Games is the best overt example. The Culture AI are so smart that they use subtle moves involving people, events, etc&#160;and the goal is to undermine and demoralize their enemies.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Matter was exactly about that, but it was written without clues. The Culture saw a world they couldn&#039;t get their hooks into and hatched a very complex plot which eventually planted an agent there. Once the agent is in place, then it&#039;s the end for the opposition. It was seemingly about nothing, because it was about a subtle plan.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile, I see Banks&#039; Culture as a parallel about how a country like the US destroys other countries through music, pop culture, TV, and movies rather than with violent war. Sometimes we wage &quot;Culture War,&quot; get it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He&#039;s a great writer. You have modern politic, economics, and all that with great fantasy.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost all the culture novels are about a giant game played by the Culture AI. The book, The Player of Games is the best overt example. The Culture AI are so smart that they use subtle moves involving people, events, etc&nbsp;and the goal is to undermine and demoralize their enemies.</p>
<p>Matter was exactly about that, but it was written without clues. The Culture saw a world they couldn&#8217;t get their hooks into and hatched a very complex plot which eventually planted an agent there. Once the agent is in place, then it&#8217;s the end for the opposition. It was seemingly about nothing, because it was about a subtle plan.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I see Banks&#8217; Culture as a parallel about how a country like the US destroys other countries through music, pop culture, TV, and movies rather than with violent war. Sometimes we wage &#8220;Culture War,&#8221; get it?</p>
<p>He&#8217;s a great writer. You have modern politic, economics, and all that with great fantasy.</p>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I still haven&#039;t read this short story. Mayhaps you could bring that doorstop &lt;strong&gt;The Space Opera Rennaissance&lt;/strong&gt; in? That said, any of the other Culture novels would require a ginormous budget and probably would have to be filmed in IMAX just to do them justice.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A short story seems like a good place to start, but having not read it, I&#039;m concerned that the stuff that makes the Culture really cool doesn&#039;t play a big part.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still haven&#8217;t read this short story. Mayhaps you could bring that doorstop <strong>The Space Opera Rennaissance</strong> in? That said, any of the other Culture novels would require a ginormous budget and probably would have to be filmed in IMAX just to do them justice.</p>
<p>A short story seems like a good place to start, but having not read it, I&#8217;m concerned that the stuff that makes the Culture really cool doesn&#8217;t play a big part.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek C. F. Pegritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek C. F. Pegritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Avoid &lt;em&gt;Matter&lt;/em&gt;--the story&#039;s amazingly entertaining, and full of wonderful details...but it goes absolutely nowhere. There&#039;s no big pay-off at the end: the story just &lt;em&gt;stops&lt;/em&gt;--and the reader&#039;s left sitting there thinking, &quot;Uhhh...did somebody forget to publish the final chapter or something?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That said, &lt;em&gt;Consider Phlebas&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Excession&lt;/em&gt; are both brilliant, and the other Culture novels are excellent is as well. &lt;em&gt;Excession&lt;/em&gt;&#039;s my favourite simply because it focuses extensively on the Culture&#039;s Minds and the goofball ships that contain them. You really can&#039;t beat a starship that calls itself &lt;em&gt;Attitude Adjuster&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avoid <em>Matter</em>&#8211;the story&#8217;s amazingly entertaining, and full of wonderful details&#8230;but it goes absolutely nowhere. There&#8217;s no big pay-off at the end: the story just <em>stops</em>&#8211;and the reader&#8217;s left sitting there thinking, &#8220;Uhhh&#8230;did somebody forget to publish the final chapter or something?&#8221;</p>
<p>That said, <em>Consider Phlebas</em> and <em>Excession</em> are both brilliant, and the other Culture novels are excellent is as well. <em>Excession</em>&#8216;s my favourite simply because it focuses extensively on the Culture&#8217;s Minds and the goofball ships that contain them. You really can&#8217;t beat a starship that calls itself <em>Attitude Adjuster</em>.</p>
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