Stargate Universe: Likes, Dislikes, Dos and Don’ts

I’ve been struggling to watch Stargate: Universe. I keep tuning in because, well, I’ve watched and loved all the other Stargate TV shows and to not watch Universe makes me feel like I’d be missing out on an important chapter of a story — even if that chapter makes me repeatedly want to throw the book at the wall. I’ve always appreciated that the Stargate shows were light fare and looked forward to them for that reason.That doesn’t mean that I have an aversion to dark and gritty science fiction. I was a huge Battlestar Galactica fan girl and the evidence of that is in my blog archives. So, it’s not the dark and sometimes violent aspects of Universe that bother me. In fact, Universe could be a great counterpoint to the rest of the Stargate world.

However, when I switched Universe off during the “Aftermath” episode, and then turned it back on as Young started bashing a Lucian Alliance soldier’s head on the floor, I decided to finally figure out why this program was frustrating me so much.

What I Like About Universe

T.J. is fantastic. She’s really the heart of the show. I’m also looking forward to the storyline with the fate of her daughter Carmen, the colonists on the obelisk planet, and the mystery of the Obelisk Builders themselves. I’m excited that something interesting is finally happening to Chloe. I’m skeptical that the aliens discovered on Destiny’s twin ship are T.J.’s aliens, but hopefully something scary like the Wraith. Which brings me to…

What I Don’t Like About Universe

Young is a head-case. Rush is a dick. I’m not usually that blunt, but it’s really just that simple. Or maybe not. BSG’s Baltar has a lot in common with the arrogant Rush and Stargate has shown us this type of character before as well. In fact, this is how Stargate: Atlantis’ Dr. Rodney McKay began. Both Baltar and McKay, however, had humorous foils to their arrogance. A much lighter show, the humor on Atlantis was more straight-up, but BSG handled dark humor well and the audience enjoyed watching Baltar squirm. Indeed, watching Baltar drive himself off a cliff on a regular basis was entertaining.

However, while all of the actors on Universe are amazing, including Robert Carlyle, the crew would be better off to blow Rush out an airlock. They don’t need his uber-genius since they have Eli and now Ginn from the Lucian Alliance (played by Julie McNiven, who is stuck in my mind as Anna from Supernatural). How many uber-genuises does it take to run a spaceship anyway? Rodney McKay would be writing sub-routines to increase the hot water in his Ancient shower by now.

Even the season one episode “Human” that portrayed the death of Rush’s wife didn’t make me care more about him because it seems like it’s only the first part of an arc that the writers haven’t followed up on yet. Maybe I’m just impatient, but Rush needs to care about something human on Destiny. We know that he’s emotionally destitute and that the worst of his arrogance comes from the fact that he feels like he has nothing left to lose. So, give him something to lose then. Make me care what happens to him. Make it a subtle, reluctant, and sarcastic softening toward Eli — a grudging respect that he’s forced to give. As it stands right now, Rush seems like a caricature instead of a multi-dimensional character.

I’m not sure what the writers have planned for Rush, but I wish they’d get on with it already. Make me care about him as a mostly good guy or make me love to hate him as a bad guy. Maybe, after his run-in with the aliens, he’s now a sleeper spy? I don’t need to like him, but I do need to see that his role is important.

Young’s relationship with T.J. has been poignant, but, like Rush, his character seems unfinished. He cheated on his wife and I’d like to have seen a deeper reason other than just that their relationship wasn’t working. What happened in Young’s past that set him up for that behavior or for his erratic violence on Destiny? Is the latter attributed to the head injury he received in the pilot? Has he always been somewhat unstable, but just better able to hide it until the events on Destiny? In some ways, we know more about Greer’s emotional backstory than Young’s or Rush’s.

Stakes and Reasons Why

The stakes of BSG were ridiculously high: the fate of an entire civilization and potentially our own. Dark and gritty made sense against a backdrop of a civilization on the edge of despair and the occasional dark humor kept the show from getting to be too much of a bummer. Plus, BSG also had a mythology that deepened the mystery. (Sadly, they did not have a “plan” for follow-through, but as Alton Brown would say: that’s another show.)

Yes, the lives of the people on Destiny are at stake, but as distressing and insanely difficult as that would be in “real life,” it’s not enough for science fiction. It’s not enough if they’re going to show characters being beaten to a pulp every other episode and leaving people stranded on a barren planet somewhere. The original Stargate played off all of our religious mythologies and later shows created new ones. Season two needs to develop the mythology of Universe.

The Don’ts

Please, please do not make Rush’s hallucinations in “Aftermath” be a projection of Destiny’s computer. When James Callis’ character on Eureka makes jokes about hallucinating a tall, leggy blond in a red dress, it’s time to retire the mad-scientist-hallucinating-people idea for a while. Rush seems to think he is indeed losing his mind and, minus the ship projection possibility, that could work. After all, someone like Rush needs to completely fall apart and go all Humpty Dumpty in order to rebuild from scratch and gain some better qualities.

Also, please, please do not dump the Destiny crew off the ship at the end of every season. Star Trek: Voyager did that a bunch of times already. Kthnxbai.

The Dos

Show me more of T.J. and what happened to Carmen. I want to know more about the aliens who built the obelisk planet. Do they have a history with the Blueberry Aliens? Was Caine really Caine or just a representation of him to make T.J. feel better? Play off the fact that we can’t trust him because, well, the writers named him “Caine” — and I assume they did that deliberately. Supernatural girl’s talk of the Ancients and rising to a higher plane of existence makes me think that Caine might not really be Caine — or if he is then he’s some Nirvana version of him.

Show me more about Chloe’s coming transformation. Like Rush, she was captured by the Blueberry Aliens. Is she turning into some kind of hybrid? Was she able to understand the language in the underground labyrinth because of her stint with the Blueberry Aliens?

Show me why Young is such a psychological freak show. Better yet, develop even more the parallels between Young and Rush. They’re both losing their minds and both can be really nasty. As difficult as it was to watch Young end Riley’s life, he did the wrong thing for the right reasons. Rush constantly does the right thing for the wrong reasons. Run with that.

Raise the stakes. With possibly two alien cultures being developed in season two, will gaining control of Destiny lead those potential enemies to Earth? Sure, I feel bad for the Destiny crew, but them living or dying doesn’t ultimately affect anyone else on Earth. Build and deepen the show’s mythology. Dole out some interesting tidbits about the Obelisk Builders and the Blueberry Aliens. Show me some softening in the crew relationships so you can rip it apart later and I’ll care what happens.

Despite my frustration, I’m not giving up on Stargate: Universe just yet. I realize a show like Universe has many facets to develop and to juggle those is difficult without an infodump. I expect long character arcs. As others have said, Universe has the potential to be the DS9 of Stargate and I loved DS9. Just don’t make me work so hard to stay interested.

24 thoughts on “Stargate Universe: Likes, Dislikes, Dos and Don’ts”

  1. SGU is a better show then SG-1 or Atlantis.

    The sad thing is it will not survive very long as the built in fan base, not use to character development and plot driven stories, will be confused and wander off when seeing it.

  2. I also think SG:U is great, far better than SG:A which I simply couldn’t stomach (gave up someway into season 2) as it carried on the worst bits of SG:1 and ignored the good stuff (on going plot and character development)….

    I love the darkness of SG:U, I love the fact that it actually has characters who are beleivable and interesting rather than simple plot devices who do what ever the plot requires them week in week out without much thought to consistency or growth. Like Lisa I want to see Rush grow and develope his character (which I am sure is going to happen) but I don’t want to see him become a toothless misanthrope, for me he is the heart and soul of the show… his anger and rage at the stupidity of others who get in his way is great. Basically my advice is just carry on with Rush, his character is developing and we are seeing his back story unfold nicely.

    Young is a slightly different kettle of fish, he can be great but his character is probably the least convincing as the show can’t seem to decide if they want him to be an effective and hard leader (and a bit of a bastard) or an ineffective leader who is clinging to the edges trying to keep things going by any means nessicary. I was also really annoyed with how they gutted his credibility as a leader at the end of the last season by making him so ineffective when fighting the Lucien Alliance…. Basically they need to decide who he is and then stick to that, if the plot demands that he be something else then give him a reason to act out of character or be unable to do what makes the most sense to him, for example the obvious solution to the Lucien problem would have been to start venting the gate room, it would have been a simple and effective way to make them surrender… this could have been stopped by Rush pointing out the ship was too weak and would rip itself to peices, or byt the LA having a bomb that would blow the ship to bits forcing a stand off…. either of these would have maintained Young’s credibility and would have maintained his hardnosed leadership that we have seen elsewhere.

    Personally I think the 1st season was great (LA gate room aside) yeah it did annoy me early on with a couple of ‘monster of the week’ shinanigans but that also gave us the great time loop episode. I think the show needs to carry on the way it was, and it needs to forget about monster of the week/ and be very careful about bringing in uber alien/ascended races.

     

  3. I’m with the other commenters, I must admit; I find most sf on TV to be pretty dreadful, including Stargate in every incarnation. Same goes for BSG. And Doctor Who. And every Star Trek but the original, and…the list goes on.

    So SG:U was a very pleasant surprise, and I only started watching at all because a)I’d read it was very nearly a complete break from what went on before, and b)it had Robert Carlyle in it – and, apart from the pleasure of seeing a fellow Glaswegian in that role, I felt that his presence was some measure of the quality of the scripts.

    So far, the only things that have really disappointed me are when the show harks back to the previous series. I still, to be honest, have not a clue what the ‘Lucian Alliance’ is, and prefer to think of SG:U as an entirely separate show forced to ride on the coattails of an existing franchise in order to get greenlit. Darker the better, I say.

  4. Gary, just curious what you have against BSG? I can lump all the other shows you mentioned together quite easily when it comes to how they deal with plots and characters and have that dreaded character reset button at the end of each episode. However BSG was a very different kettle of fish, the only thing it has in comon with the rest of list is the fact it was science fiction…..

  5. I watch Universe because … well, it’s Stargate, and there isn’t much else on.  But I have declared that if they ever run into Replicators, I’ll turn it off and never watch it again.

  6. I have never watched the previous Stargate series, but I am in love with SGU. Rush seems to me to be a competent genius in counterpoint to Baltar’s utter incompetence. And the current situation with the Lucian Alliance is so much more realistic than the way the Federation and the Maquis were all one big happy family by the final minutes of the pilot(!). I’m going to be very sad if this show goes away. It’s one of the best SF series in a long time and, with Scalzi’s involvement, if given the chance, might surpass BSG simply by not giving back its gains in the eventual finale. I hope it gets there.

  7. As someone who’s watched both Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis, I have to say that Stargate Universe is a real breath of fresh air. All three shows I like for various reasons (although Atlantis really tried my patience), and I like that Universe is very dark: it’s what’s setting the show apart from the others, and it really demonstrates that the franchise is something that can evolve and grow up a bit. I also like the realism and the approach that the show is taking with its characters, and I feel that their situation is pretty dire, and that not everything will be resolved within the 40 minutes. I just re-watched SG-1 with my girlfriend, and I found myself getting really annoyed with the formulaic nature of each episode and the characters.

     Universe has its own irritating points: Rush’s constant arrogance (they do need to break out of that a bit) some of the dialogue, etc. These are fairly minor quibbles, and given that the show is only in its second season (some of the best shows didn’t get good until a lot later) there’s room for improvement, which I’m looking forward to seeing.

     I will second what a bunch of people have said: Universe is a better show than SG-1 or Atlantis, but it’s a different show. Whole new ballgame, and I like that it’s both striking out on its own, and that it’s looping back and involving the Lucian Alliance in things, something that should have been focused on over the Ori back in Seasons 9 and 10. I think that the main reason SG-1 faltered and died was because they attempted to do exactly the same thing again, and there was really no reason to watch any more. Universe is completely new. 

    I like Young a lot, as well as Scott and Greer – none of them are copies of SG-1 and Atlantis characters, and they have their own issues that they’re slowly getting through.

     The other thing I hate? (But lovingly) The cliffhangers. Arg!

  8. I liked the different Stargate shows for different reasons. I also had different expectations based on what each show set out to accomplish. Obviously there are audiences for dark and gritty as well as lighter science fiction. Whether dark or light, I’m intrigued by characters who at least change if not grow through their experiences.

    Rush hasn’t changed, however. He’s still the same arrogant know-it-all he was in the pilot despite Young beating him up and leaving him for dead and also being captured and examined by the blueberry aliens. From a show that’s shooting for gritty realism, we should see some fallout from such life-altering experiences. If not, then I need some kind of clue why. I don’t need the whole explanation all at once, just a clue to keep the suspense going. The same goes for Young — I’d like to see some deeper reasons explaining his behavior.

    Lou — Great comparison with the Federation and the Maquis. I doubt we’ll see an easy time of it between the Destiny crew and the remaining members of the Lucian Alliance.

    Despite my frustration I keep tuning in every week, so obviously SGU has reeled me in to some degree. I don’t want this show to go away, I just hope they’re able to smooth over some of these rough points in season two.

  9. SGU suffers from ship in a bottle syndrome.  The writers (and perhaps budget?) are having everything play out on the same canvas because it’s easy and convenient:  the inside of the Destiny.

    The problem with this is that it makes for DREADFUL and boring storytelling after about 3 episodes.  In addition the most of the characters just aren’t likeable.  Sure they are flawed…but the writers can’t figure out how to create a flawed character that is at the same time likeable.

    So instead of the crew investigating new worlds, which presumably have something to investigate since very one of them has a stargate on them, we’re stuck on a dark, cold, ship whizzing through space while characters we dislike glare at each other and generally put us in crappy moods.

    Writing & characters trumps SFX and budget every time.  Proof:  Babylon 5.

     

  10. Sorry Lisa but I diagree with you about Rush, I think he has changed a bit… he is more trusting of others and more likely to work with others than at the start of the show… no this doesn’t mean he is the sharing caring type (and in my mind never will be). The thing is most of his experiences on Destiny will have re-inforced his standoffishness and in particular his dislike and distrust of Young (and the rest of the military by association), he has made an uneasy alliance with the politician woman (never can remember her name).

  11. Andy, can you provide examples that show that Rush is more trusting. He just unlocked the bridge of the ship and has full control over it, yet hasn’t told anyone. Who has he trusted? If he were more trusting or actually had someone aboard ship he felt he could trust or confide in, wouldn’t he have said something to that person?

  12. I’m not sure I’d call the less adversarial relationship between Rush and Wray an example of Rush being more trusting. Rather, I think it’s a matter of him not wanting the whole ship to gang up on him and toss him out the airlock. Rush is now picking his battles. He did claim in “Aftermath” that he wanted the away mission to succeed not just for himself but for everyone and that could be considered a slight change.

    Rush actually trusting someone seems beyond him at this point in his arc. Rather, Rush being forced to admit a begrudging respect for someones seems more likely. Case in point, in SG:A McKay began to respect for Sheppard only after he learned Sheppard passed the MENSA test — when he realized that Sheppard might be worthy of his respect.

  13. I tried to like it when it first came on, then gave up completely. Then my wife bought me “Season 1.0″ (so tired of these split box releases, thank you BSG for starting this trend!). So I tried it again (it was a gift from my wife, she meant well!).

    Surprisingly…on DVD…the show worked better for me. It feels like one long multi-hour (whatever the first season was) movie (other than the complete standalones like the time loop episode) rather than a sequential series. I haven’t started watching the second season (yet) as I am still catching up (so many books, so little time, so many ex-lovers to bury), but I’ll keep recording and hope the show makes it.

    It is very different in feel than SG-1 or Atlantis. Better? Worse? Neither–very different. All the characters are interesting (in different ways) and mostly feel real to me (I can believe Rush more than I can believe Greer–they need to do more on his “backstory” to make it work for me).

    For me, the show is working better than Atlantis ever did. Atlantis was always I’ll catch it if I have time. This is more like SG-1 (once I catch up)–it’ll be something I work into the schedule.

  14. I had a lot of time for the lighter aspects of SG1, but I’m in the “SG:U rules” camp — *so* glad they’re basically jetissoning the baggage. If they’d carried on in the style of SG:A this would just have been… Spacequest DSV. With Rush reiterating McKay, starting out as a caricature of the abrasively egoistic genius scientist and being softened with humour and basic decency to a more likeable stereotype mainly because, yanno, Dog forbid an sf show offer us characters with more bite to them than babyfood. Bollocks to that. Rush actually reads as a real human being. He’s even hardened by that human relationship backstory rather than softened by it in the usual trite Hollywood manner. This is good; the world does not actually run by the logic of rom-coms.

    Young’s strong/weak behaviour, meanwhile, makes him a vastly more interesting character than any uber-competent space opera commander to date. I’m so tired of the pandering tosh, the tediously facile captain figures who read like sub-Heinleinian competent men filtered through a New Age focus group so they’re nice and safe, their militarism sugarcoated in maudlin sentiment. *Finally* we get a Bligh figure in sf, and one rendered with a sympathetic eye to what makes him as much right as he is wrong. Awesome.

    The pairing of Rush and Young is what really makes it for me, the fact that both are completely right about each other, which is what makes both of them also dead wrong. This is what makes for actual thematic meat in the show, where the writers have the cojones not to offer easy reductive resolutions but to actually let the clashing viewpoints play out in the drama, presented as valid and comprehensible viewpoints even when we/they might *not* be naturally sympathetic to them. It’s a Necker Cube effect, the tension between two irreconcilable perspectives, and it’s dependent on the writers actually treating each perspective with integrity.

    That integrity in the writing is what BSG turned out to *entirely* lack as, time and again, it pussied out with the issues it touched on, the ideas it exploited dramatically but spectacularly *failed* to address, preferring soap-operatic character shenanigans and action/adventure hokum — both of which were done damn well but ultimately distracted from the shoddy “survival of the fleet” card they played as a perennial cop-out. Sorry, but BSG was chickenshit writing; it started well, looked like it was setting up some meaty conflicts, but never once had the balls to follow through on its own narrative logic.

    And forget the deus ex machina ending here; that cowardice sets in at season 3 when the writers chicken out with their approach to the suicide bombings. From then on it just sloughs any integrity it had, with the mutiny story-arc being the true apotheosis of that craven spinelessness where any viewpoints opposing Adama’s and Roslyn’s plot-expedient decrees is ceaselessly undermined. (The mutiny episodes in SG:U stand in stark contrast; the mutineers are actually given some legitimacy there.) The “God did it” finale was just the logical end of an established pattern in which the use of authorial fiat was obscured by shameless handwaving. SG:U on the other hand? I’m *really* interested to see where it goes.

    Right now, SG:U is pissing all over everything else, to my mind, and that most definitley includes BSG.

  15. @Scott & Lisa, I think Rush is becoming slighty more trusting because he now at least accepts that some of the crew are at least competent and can be trusted to stay on task, where as at the start of the season he wasn’t able to do that. Rush is a control freak, loner and a misanthrope. Add into this his fractured relationship with Young and its only because he has changed that he hasn’t gone off the deep end.

     

  16. @Andy W – I watched the first season of BSG, but couldn’t get into it. Some of it was actually very well done, but over a whole series I could see where it was going with the great heaping piles of pseudo-mysticism. When I read about the final episodes and how much people hated them, it did nothing but confirm my early suspicions of exactly where the series was going several seasons in advance. BSG was essentially science fantasy…but SG:U is undoubtedly science fiction.

  17. I think you would be surprised if you watched more of BSG Gary, yeah the last episode was a bit of a cop out… but as they said the show was going to have a definitive ending….. As for it having huge heapings of pseudo-mysticism, I didn’t notice it… Yes there was some but it worked within the context of the show, I certainly wouldn’t class it as science fantasy.

    As for Hal’s comments on the show I disagree with most of them. BSG often lived up to its higher goals, yeah it did occasionaly flop… but it hit more often than not imho.

  18. @Hal Duncan: “With Rush reiterating McKay, starting out as a caricature of the abrasively egoistic genius scientist and being softened with humour and basic decency to a more likeable stereotype mainly because, yanno, Dog forbid an sf show offer us characters with more bite to them than babyfood. Bollocks to that. Rush actually reads as a real human being. He’s even hardened by that human relationship backstory rather than softened by it in the usual trite Hollywood manner.”

    Rush is just as much a caricature as McKay was. At least we could laugh at McKay. I’ll say it again: I don’t mind Rush’s character having bite, but I need to know why he is the way he is. I need context and backstory. That context can make all the difference between Rush coming off as a hardened human instead of just a PITA.

  19. @Andy W: “I think Rush is becoming slighty more trusting because he now at least accepts that some of the crew are at least competent and can be trusted to stay on task, where as at the start of the season he wasn’t able to do that. Rush is a control freak, loner and a misanthrope. Add into this his fractured relationship with Young and its only because he has changed that he hasn’t gone off the deep end.”

    That may indeed be an ever so slight change, I’ll give you that. Rush seems to vassilate on that, though. He castigated another crewmember for her less than stellar aptitude right before he goes to the bridge.

  20. I agree about more backstory being important to growing Rush’s character, but from the moment we 1st met him we were shown a driven misanthrope who alienated the people around him because they couldn’t do what he wanted them to do. When we saw his wife it was telling that he ignored her dying and no one seemed to find this odd or unusual… spoke volumes to me about who he is and how people unfriendly he is. I don’t find Rush a characture at all because he is internally consistent and not used for ‘comedy’ relief.

  21. @Andy W: “When we saw his wife it was telling that he ignored her dying and no one seemed to find this odd or unusual… spoke volumes to me about who he is and how people unfriendly he is.”

    I got the impression that he was ignoring her for two reasons: (1) he knew it to be fake, and (2) to acknowledge it would have caused him to break down. I was under the impression that when she died for real he might have been a mess. To see a glimpse of that would have been very powerful, would have made his character just slightly more sympathetic, and also would have shown his motivation for being the misanthrope that he is now.

  22. Funny enough I was about to say the S1 episode “Human” gives that context and backstory perfectly for me. He’s an arrogant egoist to start with, and when he uses that to avoid dealing with his own wife’s death he writes himself into a corner he can’t get out of, a vicious cycle even, where he’s utterly detached from everyone around him, focused completely on the abstract, in order to avoid facing the fact that he’s utterly detached from everyone around him, focused completely on the abstract — ie. as he was when his wife died, i.e. because facing that means facing his guilt and grief. The way he’s written, he’s not ready for change yet.

    For me that makes him immensely likeable. Not as a person, but then I’m not looking for a friend here; I’m looking for a character, one who’ll engage with other characters in an interesting dynamic. I like him because he does just that. Same as I like Young, though I can’t even begin to imagine having a pint with him. Same as I like Scott and Greer even though neither “vacuous jock” nor “violent jock” are exactly my type of peeps.

  23. As someone who has watched all the Stargate shows, I wanted to throw a couple things out there:

    1) Because Universe has a different tone completely, because it is dark and gritty, the episodes that bug me are the ones where they connect with Stargate Command & General O’Neall.  I love Richard Dean Anderson, I love what he did with that character and that first show – but he doesn’t FIT with SGU.  Those episodes, to me, are like speedbumps.

    2) The comparison to Voyager is a good one.  While I thought Voyager was a decent show, I thought the characters did give up their conflict a little too easily, but then, that was always the case with Trek with the notable exception of Worf.  The man could hold a grudge… 

    The ther comparison that I think people do’t always draw is between Universe and Atlantis.  Similar initial plot points – a crew stranded far from home, limited supplies, no chance of reinforcements.  But all three shows pissed me off by (fairly quickly) giving the crews some way of communicating with home.  On Voyager it was the recorded messages back and forth, on Atlantis they were able to get enough power to the gate to travel back and forth and then later, build a gate bride between galaxies.  Lastly, on Universe, it’s the damned stones from the last seasons of SG1.

    I hate the stones.  I wish they were really, honest and truly cut off.  I think the characters would have a much better arc if they couldn’t fall back on the IOA or Stargate Command.

    3) I think Young is in love with TJ, always has been.  He did love his wife once, but TJ is his love and he knows he screwed the pooch there and with his wife and with his career.  He doesn’t want to be in charge but he doesn’t want anyone else in charge either.  He does need more to do, though.  He does need that arc.

    4) Rush is what McKay and/or Carter would be if they had no moral compass, or a skewed moral compass.  In the beginning, McKay was an ass but when they decided to expand his character, they had to give him more dimension or else why would anyone care about him – sound familiar?  This goes directly to your original point about giving you a reason to care about him.  They did it with McKay, they can do it with Rush.

    Side note – I had the exact same thought you did – the ‘visions’ are going to end up being the computer.  Lame.  I’d rather he go insane.  We need a mad scientist in the Stargate.. uh.. universe.  No pun intended.

    5) I have never understood Chloe as a character.  Is she a love interest?  Is she there to be a something for Eli to pine over and Scott to screw up?

    6) What I love about this show – they have moved away from the ‘normal’ Stargate mythos, ancient Egypt stuff, the religion, the factions – I’d like to see them stay as far away from that as possible.  When they do the movies like Ark of Truth & Continuum, by all means, bring out the Goa’ould, the Replicators, Ascended Ancients and Ori, but keep them out of Universe.  They don’t belong there.

    I love the darkness, the flawed characters who are less than heroic.  I love that it isn’t about the Earth being in danger from week to week.  Ironicaly, by moving to (and calling it) Universe, they’ve actualy condesnsed the stories down and made them more human, more focused and less about saving the world.  They’re far more concerned about where their next meal is going to come from.

    7) When BSG went off the air, everyone was kind of wondering what was going to be the next big show.  High hopes were pinned on FlashForward and Caprica but I honestly believe that it’s SGU.

    …and last, I STILL WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE HELL WAS UP WITH THAT SHUTTLE CRAFT!!!

    ~P

  24. In defense of Rush I would like to point out Rush did save the ship from the Allusian Allaince and he did it because Young did not have the guts to do what he did at the start.

    His arrogance is not entirely unjustified.

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