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		<title>By: ENKI-][</title>
		<link>http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2012/06/mind-meld-has-space-opera-lost-its-luster/#comment-101083</link>
		<dc:creator>ENKI-][</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 12:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People seem to be glossing over the fact that space opera, even the typically-Hard space opera stuff that comes out of the likes of Bear, is no less socially and politically retrogressive than steampunk or high fantasy. While steampunk is a retreat into an idealized nineteenth century and high fantasy tends to be a retreat into an idealized middle ages, space opera is typically ancient Rome in space (or some minor variation on the theme), aggressively avoiding any &#039;modern&#039; questions and placing itself in the far future as an excuse for not being particularly relevant. Say what you will about Cyberpunk, but it was perfectly willing to display a possible near future world and stick around to see its predictions be invalidated.

Steampunk is primarily a costume and attitude, but so is space opera as she is written. This is less a criticism of good space opera (like Stross&#039;s -- but I get the impression that Stross is compulsively Hard-SF). Crystal Spires and Togas is, quite unfortunately, not a dead trope; at least clockwork zeppelins are slightly more novel. Angsting over the death of Space Opera is nostalgizing not only the distant past, but also the time period wherein SF could get away with doing so -- when any high fantasy became SF if you set it on another planet, regardless of verisimilitude.

Is space opera dead? Not dead enough. But, to save itself, it should take a cue not from Glasshouse so much as from Singularity Sky: political and social verisimilitude is at least as important as cool gadgets and adherence to known physical laws, and a space opera should have plenty of all of the above to be of interest. SF has historically been a genre ghetto, and for good reason: putting a rocket ship or a robot into a story has made it pass for science fiction for too long, and space opera is the primary offender. Let&#039;s set higher standards for ourselves in all the subgenres of SF, instead of pardoning space opera.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People seem to be glossing over the fact that space opera, even the typically-Hard space opera stuff that comes out of the likes of Bear, is no less socially and politically retrogressive than steampunk or high fantasy. While steampunk is a retreat into an idealized nineteenth century and high fantasy tends to be a retreat into an idealized middle ages, space opera is typically ancient Rome in space (or some minor variation on the theme), aggressively avoiding any &#8216;modern&#8217; questions and placing itself in the far future as an excuse for not being particularly relevant. Say what you will about Cyberpunk, but it was perfectly willing to display a possible near future world and stick around to see its predictions be invalidated.</p>
<p>Steampunk is primarily a costume and attitude, but so is space opera as she is written. This is less a criticism of good space opera (like Stross&#8217;s &#8212; but I get the impression that Stross is compulsively Hard-SF). Crystal Spires and Togas is, quite unfortunately, not a dead trope; at least clockwork zeppelins are slightly more novel. Angsting over the death of Space Opera is nostalgizing not only the distant past, but also the time period wherein SF could get away with doing so &#8212; when any high fantasy became SF if you set it on another planet, regardless of verisimilitude.</p>
<p>Is space opera dead? Not dead enough. But, to save itself, it should take a cue not from Glasshouse so much as from Singularity Sky: political and social verisimilitude is at least as important as cool gadgets and adherence to known physical laws, and a space opera should have plenty of all of the above to be of interest. SF has historically been a genre ghetto, and for good reason: putting a rocket ship or a robot into a story has made it pass for science fiction for too long, and space opera is the primary offender. Let&#8217;s set higher standards for ourselves in all the subgenres of SF, instead of pardoning space opera.</p>
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		<title>By: Moses Solomon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moses Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 23:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Space stories, whether space opera or more fact-based, have faded from the forefront because the real world of space exploration has gone to the back-burner.  Case in point: we currently have no American space vehicle.  Once a new development occurs, whether it be by NASA or the private sector - and it will need to be a human-centered development - there should be a window of opportunity to capture the larger audience&#039;s imagination, though the tone will likely not be one of boldly going, as we have gone well past that point.  But like all genre fiction, there will always be a core space opera readership that needs quality, mind-stretching stories about empathetic, all-too-human characters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Space stories, whether space opera or more fact-based, have faded from the forefront because the real world of space exploration has gone to the back-burner.  Case in point: we currently have no American space vehicle.  Once a new development occurs, whether it be by NASA or the private sector &#8211; and it will need to be a human-centered development &#8211; there should be a window of opportunity to capture the larger audience&#8217;s imagination, though the tone will likely not be one of boldly going, as we have gone well past that point.  But like all genre fiction, there will always be a core space opera readership that needs quality, mind-stretching stories about empathetic, all-too-human characters.</p>
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		<title>By: X2Eliah</title>
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		<dc:creator>X2Eliah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, recommending scientific articles for big ideas, fair enough, but there is a little known factor that goes roughly like that &quot;Scientific articles are the expressions of pathological hate towards readability&quot;. Meaning, there&#039;s a very good reason that those articles are not popular reads, that being the fact that they are nigh unreadable in any entertainment-focused form. It&#039;s not even that the writing style officially mandated (and policed by the Scoffing Professors) forbids any plots, characters or settings or events, it&#039;s that any emotionality, expressionism and flair is strictly outlawed... Either you end up reading concepts treated with words as if they were some arcane formula variable symbols chained in patterns, or you read a very watered down &amp; factually dodgy &#039;popsci&#039; article insome journal - but either way, it will not and can not replace a time spent consuming a well-written novel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, recommending scientific articles for big ideas, fair enough, but there is a little known factor that goes roughly like that &#8220;Scientific articles are the expressions of pathological hate towards readability&#8221;. Meaning, there&#8217;s a very good reason that those articles are not popular reads, that being the fact that they are nigh unreadable in any entertainment-focused form. It&#8217;s not even that the writing style officially mandated (and policed by the Scoffing Professors) forbids any plots, characters or settings or events, it&#8217;s that any emotionality, expressionism and flair is strictly outlawed&#8230; Either you end up reading concepts treated with words as if they were some arcane formula variable symbols chained in patterns, or you read a very watered down &amp; factually dodgy &#8216;popsci&#8217; article insome journal &#8211; but either way, it will not and can not replace a time spent consuming a well-written novel.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As someone (being an average bod) who has been to panels with SF book editors talking about what they publish and what they would like to publish more of, and also having had a number of personal conversations with the same over the years, I have to say that the question &quot;why Space Opera, hadn’t gone more mainstream, like steampunk?&quot; came as bit of a surprise.

Notwithstanding the difficulty in creating a taxonomy for Spec Fic, let alone engaging in systematics (the relationship between works to each other within said taxonomy) the sense I have been getting from editors the past several years is that they would love to publish more hard SF space opera novels but simply do not get the submissions.  Conversely they get loads of fantasy and science-fantasy such as steam punk and so can publish the best that they think will be commercial.

My own personal take, as someone part of a group of scientists into SF, is that over the decades we are living in a western world that is more scientifically literate (notwithstanding intelligent designers, climate change deniers etc) as well as more dependent on science and technology (not that you need to have a science or technology qualification to appreciate science, use the technology or have the fundamentals of science literacy).  However there are very few writers who have all of the three abilities needed to produce good hard SF space opera: science literacy, the ability to write good fiction, and the wide-screen scale of imagination.  True, two out of three will get you an enjoyable space operatic yarn and even a good episode of &lt;I&gt;Star Trek&lt;/I&gt; (wagon train to the stars), but you need all three for a Banksian &#039;Culture&#039; (at the science fantasy end of space opera), or a Reynolds&#039; &#039;Revelation Space&#039; (middle of the fantasy-hard SF road) epic, or a Peter Watts (hard SF space opera) mind blower.  However, as rightly pointed out above (Paul Jessup), there is always new talent emerging and yes, for example, I too have great expectations for Hannu Rajaniemi.

What I am not worried about is this supposed penchant for mundane SF as being the next big thing.  Mundane SF has always been with us (just look at the volume of techno-thrillers produced next door) and as far as I can see mundane SF will always throw up its share of notable works.  But I simply don&#039;t view there to be some sort of conflict between mundane SF and space opera.  I go along with Arthur Clarke&#039;s 2nd law &quot;when a distinguished but elderly scientist says that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he says it is impossible, he is probably very wrong.&quot;

If you want your socks blown off check out &lt;I&gt;Science&lt;/I&gt; and/or &lt;I&gt;Nature&lt;/I&gt; each week. To take just one example (there are many), we do seem closing in on the possibility of developing an ansible (note: this is not the same as FTL).  Each paper I see concerning entanglement stability is more promising than the last: van der Sar &lt;I&gt;et al&lt;/I&gt; &#039;Decoherence-protected quantum gates for a hybrid solid-state spin register&#039;, being one of the latest.  And as for the speed of action at a distance we are up to greater than 10,000 times the speed of light (the limit of the apparatus&#039; experimental error) : see Salart &lt;I&gt;et al&lt;/I&gt; &#039;Testing the speed of ‘spooky action at a distance’&#039; more readably summarised by Rudolph &#039;The speed of instantly&#039; all of which have appeared in &lt;I&gt;Nature&lt;/I&gt; in recent years.  But then mundane SF prophets probably don&#039;t read such science papers despite their self-purported adherence to science…  Long live space opera!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone (being an average bod) who has been to panels with SF book editors talking about what they publish and what they would like to publish more of, and also having had a number of personal conversations with the same over the years, I have to say that the question &#8220;why Space Opera, hadn’t gone more mainstream, like steampunk?&#8221; came as bit of a surprise.</p>
<p>Notwithstanding the difficulty in creating a taxonomy for Spec Fic, let alone engaging in systematics (the relationship between works to each other within said taxonomy) the sense I have been getting from editors the past several years is that they would love to publish more hard SF space opera novels but simply do not get the submissions.  Conversely they get loads of fantasy and science-fantasy such as steam punk and so can publish the best that they think will be commercial.</p>
<p>My own personal take, as someone part of a group of scientists into SF, is that over the decades we are living in a western world that is more scientifically literate (notwithstanding intelligent designers, climate change deniers etc) as well as more dependent on science and technology (not that you need to have a science or technology qualification to appreciate science, use the technology or have the fundamentals of science literacy).  However there are very few writers who have all of the three abilities needed to produce good hard SF space opera: science literacy, the ability to write good fiction, and the wide-screen scale of imagination.  True, two out of three will get you an enjoyable space operatic yarn and even a good episode of <i>Star Trek</i> (wagon train to the stars), but you need all three for a Banksian &#8216;Culture&#8217; (at the science fantasy end of space opera), or a Reynolds&#8217; &#8216;Revelation Space&#8217; (middle of the fantasy-hard SF road) epic, or a Peter Watts (hard SF space opera) mind blower.  However, as rightly pointed out above (Paul Jessup), there is always new talent emerging and yes, for example, I too have great expectations for Hannu Rajaniemi.</p>
<p>What I am not worried about is this supposed penchant for mundane SF as being the next big thing.  Mundane SF has always been with us (just look at the volume of techno-thrillers produced next door) and as far as I can see mundane SF will always throw up its share of notable works.  But I simply don&#8217;t view there to be some sort of conflict between mundane SF and space opera.  I go along with Arthur Clarke&#8217;s 2nd law &#8220;when a distinguished but elderly scientist says that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he says it is impossible, he is probably very wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you want your socks blown off check out <i>Science</i> and/or <i>Nature</i> each week. To take just one example (there are many), we do seem closing in on the possibility of developing an ansible (note: this is not the same as FTL).  Each paper I see concerning entanglement stability is more promising than the last: van der Sar <i>et al</i> &#8216;Decoherence-protected quantum gates for a hybrid solid-state spin register&#8217;, being one of the latest.  And as for the speed of action at a distance we are up to greater than 10,000 times the speed of light (the limit of the apparatus&#8217; experimental error) : see Salart <i>et al</i> &#8216;Testing the speed of ‘spooky action at a distance’&#8217; more readably summarised by Rudolph &#8216;The speed of instantly&#8217; all of which have appeared in <i>Nature</i> in recent years.  But then mundane SF prophets probably don&#8217;t read such science papers despite their self-purported adherence to science…  Long live space opera!</p>
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		<title>By: tam</title>
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		<dc:creator>tam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t call 2312 or Blue Remembered Earth space opera.  I believe you&#039;d have to go back to Reynolds&#039;s House of Suns or Peter F. Hamilton&#039;s Void Trilogy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t call 2312 or Blue Remembered Earth space opera.  I believe you&#8217;d have to go back to Reynolds&#8217;s House of Suns or Peter F. Hamilton&#8217;s Void Trilogy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff VanderMeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff VanderMeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the follow up to this MindMeld should be this question: &quot;With the growing popularity of anvils, have oranges suddenly lost their luster?&quot; Or perhaps, &quot;Llamas are suddenly *in*. How will this affect the popularity of nail clippers?&quot; jv]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the follow up to this MindMeld should be this question: &#8220;With the growing popularity of anvils, have oranges suddenly lost their luster?&#8221; Or perhaps, &#8220;Llamas are suddenly *in*. How will this affect the popularity of nail clippers?&#8221; jv</p>
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		<title>By: Al R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[20 years ago we&#039;d have been perfectly happy accepting it as an SF novel which just happened to have a medium-future space setting. It&#039;s far too grounded in its speculation - political, social and technological - to count as space opera. That&#039;s the problem with subgenres - fiction is not a game of which shape fits in which hole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20 years ago we&#8217;d have been perfectly happy accepting it as an SF novel which just happened to have a medium-future space setting. It&#8217;s far too grounded in its speculation &#8211; political, social and technological &#8211; to count as space opera. That&#8217;s the problem with subgenres &#8211; fiction is not a game of which shape fits in which hole.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. Martinez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael J. Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree with some of the folks above, in that steampunk is very much a subgenre...of alternate history. And when you think about it, space opera and steampunk have a lot in common in relation to their parent genres. Both inject an infusion of romance, adventure and wonder into genres that can, at times, be rather dry and detached. Pick your favorite military SF and put it next to, say, Harry Turtledove, and you can see the similarities. Likewise, you can see the roots of both steampunk and space opera as a kind of fun riff on their parent genres.

In the end, I&#039;m just happy there are such a dizzying array of options for writers and readers in any genre!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with some of the folks above, in that steampunk is very much a subgenre&#8230;of alternate history. And when you think about it, space opera and steampunk have a lot in common in relation to their parent genres. Both inject an infusion of romance, adventure and wonder into genres that can, at times, be rather dry and detached. Pick your favorite military SF and put it next to, say, Harry Turtledove, and you can see the similarities. Likewise, you can see the roots of both steampunk and space opera as a kind of fun riff on their parent genres.</p>
<p>In the end, I&#8217;m just happy there are such a dizzying array of options for writers and readers in any genre!</p>
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		<title>By: Midas68</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midas68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It comes and goes.  All pure speculation with the usual Half Right being the rule of the day.

In 2001(the movie from the 60&#039;s) people thought that would usher in a dawn of Intelligently Done Sci-Fi Movies.  MMmHmmm

Greatness doesn&#039;t grow on trees, and most of what was/is/will be put is BS(Sturgeons law is always in effect)

So it really shouldn&#039;t matter too much to people. As having a fav Genre or Sub Genre should not be a over riding factor. The question is why would one want to read all the zombie or vampire kissy books etc when most are trash.(And so many of them)

There is not enough Great Space Opera books to keep anyone busy for long. As with the other ongoing fads. 

Unlike the fabled sword Excalibur. There will be more Great Space Opera Books to rise in the future. And it really doesn&#039;t matter what type or version of it it is. Just how well it is written.


Signed
Cranky Old Ghost of Sturgeon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It comes and goes.  All pure speculation with the usual Half Right being the rule of the day.</p>
<p>In 2001(the movie from the 60&#8242;s) people thought that would usher in a dawn of Intelligently Done Sci-Fi Movies.  MMmHmmm</p>
<p>Greatness doesn&#8217;t grow on trees, and most of what was/is/will be put is BS(Sturgeons law is always in effect)</p>
<p>So it really shouldn&#8217;t matter too much to people. As having a fav Genre or Sub Genre should not be a over riding factor. The question is why would one want to read all the zombie or vampire kissy books etc when most are trash.(And so many of them)</p>
<p>There is not enough Great Space Opera books to keep anyone busy for long. As with the other ongoing fads. </p>
<p>Unlike the fabled sword Excalibur. There will be more Great Space Opera Books to rise in the future. And it really doesn&#8217;t matter what type or version of it it is. Just how well it is written.</p>
<p>Signed<br />
Cranky Old Ghost of Sturgeon</p>
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		<title>By: Paul (@princejvstin)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul (@princejvstin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think SF has a plausibility quotient that fantasy doesn&#039;t have. And the Space Empire, the galaxy spanning saga is much less plausible according to the science we know.  

It&#039;s not unentirely unplausible, mind, but it strains a bit of credulity these days, and so Wide scale space opera HAS lost its luster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think SF has a plausibility quotient that fantasy doesn&#8217;t have. And the Space Empire, the galaxy spanning saga is much less plausible according to the science we know.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not unentirely unplausible, mind, but it strains a bit of credulity these days, and so Wide scale space opera HAS lost its luster.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul (@princejvstin)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul (@princejvstin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does it feel like, then?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it feel like, then?</p>
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		<title>By: Al R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure I agree with that as a blanket statement. Some of the most visually exuberant SF I&#039;ve ever read has been space opera - I mean, go and look at NOVA for instance. It doesn&#039;t all have to be shiny metal corridors and silvery uniforms.

It&#039;s true that steampunk can offer a lot of scope for texturally interesting venues but there&#039;s no reason space opera can&#039;t do so as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure I agree with that as a blanket statement. Some of the most visually exuberant SF I&#8217;ve ever read has been space opera &#8211; I mean, go and look at NOVA for instance. It doesn&#8217;t all have to be shiny metal corridors and silvery uniforms.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that steampunk can offer a lot of scope for texturally interesting venues but there&#8217;s no reason space opera can&#8217;t do so as well.</p>
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		<title>By: mahendra singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>mahendra singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steampunk is, roughly speaking, more visually textured than space opera. The reader&#039;s mental eye has more to linger over and when it is illustrated, steampunk offers more optical possibilities (although it&#039;s shameful that most steampunk is usually illustrated in the same style as space opera).

The objects and scenes of steampunk are often rooted in organic materials and hand-wrought patinas and the reader subconsciously enjoys this. It&#039;s a relief from the monotony of extruded plastic. The best SF is often visual and steampunk revels in the visual.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steampunk is, roughly speaking, more visually textured than space opera. The reader&#8217;s mental eye has more to linger over and when it is illustrated, steampunk offers more optical possibilities (although it&#8217;s shameful that most steampunk is usually illustrated in the same style as space opera).</p>
<p>The objects and scenes of steampunk are often rooted in organic materials and hand-wrought patinas and the reader subconsciously enjoys this. It&#8217;s a relief from the monotony of extruded plastic. The best SF is often visual and steampunk revels in the visual.</p>
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		<title>By: Al R</title>
		<link>http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2012/06/mind-meld-has-space-opera-lost-its-luster/#comment-101011</link>
		<dc:creator>Al R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s a mistake to view every novel that has spaceships and interplanetary travel in it through a space opera lens. I can&#039;t speak for my own book but I&#039;m reading 2312 right now (great, by the way) and it doesn&#039;t feel much like space opera to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a mistake to view every novel that has spaceships and interplanetary travel in it through a space opera lens. I can&#8217;t speak for my own book but I&#8217;m reading 2312 right now (great, by the way) and it doesn&#8217;t feel much like space opera to me.</p>
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		<title>By: X2Eliah</title>
		<link>http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2012/06/mind-meld-has-space-opera-lost-its-luster/#comment-101010</link>
		<dc:creator>X2Eliah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a bit indicative of the issue though, isn&#039;t it? Since Space Opera is cycling into a more realistic near-future solar system environment, it gives up a lot of the scope that is often present in the really big, really dazzling space opera works - no more extreme technology, no more galaxy-spanning plots and so forth - by bringing it down to human-centric Sol-oriented near-future-tech-limited, the works simply lose the elements they often use to try and be so lustrous..

Also, it seems slightly interesting that the advance of real science actually seems to limit and constrain, not enhance &amp; extend, the scope of fictional science..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a bit indicative of the issue though, isn&#8217;t it? Since Space Opera is cycling into a more realistic near-future solar system environment, it gives up a lot of the scope that is often present in the really big, really dazzling space opera works &#8211; no more extreme technology, no more galaxy-spanning plots and so forth &#8211; by bringing it down to human-centric Sol-oriented near-future-tech-limited, the works simply lose the elements they often use to try and be so lustrous..</p>
<p>Also, it seems slightly interesting that the advance of real science actually seems to limit and constrain, not enhance &amp; extend, the scope of fictional science..</p>
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