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	<title>Comments on: MIND MELD: Food in Science Fiction versus Fantasy</title>
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		<title>By: SAMK</title>
		<link>http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2013/02/mind-meld-food-in-science-fiction-versus-fantasy/#comment-132834</link>
		<dc:creator>SAMK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 18:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does no one read Sharon Lee and Steve Miller?  From a &quot;Terran&quot; struggling to learn how to eat Liaden style with tongs to the trouble with getting vegetables in winter on Surebleak,  their science fiction looks at all aspects of food without, I might add, going on ad nauseum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does no one read Sharon Lee and Steve Miller?  From a &#8220;Terran&#8221; struggling to learn how to eat Liaden style with tongs to the trouble with getting vegetables in winter on Surebleak,  their science fiction looks at all aspects of food without, I might add, going on ad nauseum.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are we mostly talking about adult SF/F here? Because I can recall several scenes of huge feasts from the fantasy books I loved as a kid. The first one that comes to mind is Brian Jacques&#039; Redwall series; each book featured at least one scene of characters gathered around a groaning table, dining on all sorts of delectably odd dishes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we mostly talking about adult SF/F here? Because I can recall several scenes of huge feasts from the fantasy books I loved as a kid. The first one that comes to mind is Brian Jacques&#8217; Redwall series; each book featured at least one scene of characters gathered around a groaning table, dining on all sorts of delectably odd dishes.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Jernigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zachary Jernigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 15:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh! Great recommendation, Mantar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! Great recommendation, Mantar.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Jernigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zachary Jernigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 15:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, when I read this my heart dropped. How could I have forgotten to mention Brust, easily one of my biggest influences? I guess, because he was one of the first authors I read in the genre, he just feels like a given. There&#039;s a scene in my debut where I very specifically try to channel -- and probably fail -- his culinary spirit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, when I read this my heart dropped. How could I have forgotten to mention Brust, easily one of my biggest influences? I guess, because he was one of the first authors I read in the genre, he just feels like a given. There&#8217;s a scene in my debut where I very specifically try to channel &#8212; and probably fail &#8212; his culinary spirit.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Lipkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Lipkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 20:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The opening paragraph here was almost exactly what I was about to write! A number of us praises Brust on a food and fantasy panel a few years ago at Arisia, and I still get hungry reading some of his descriptions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The opening paragraph here was almost exactly what I was about to write! A number of us praises Brust on a food and fantasy panel a few years ago at Arisia, and I still get hungry reading some of his descriptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Mantar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mantar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post immediately brought to mind James White&#039;s _The Galactic Gourmet_, one of his Sector General novels. It basically involves the hospital&#039;s new master chef attempting to save a strange alien world&#039;s native species, using fine cuisine. He proves to the rest of the staff that cooking is a lot more important than people realize. The novel is great old-style SF fun, I&#039;d recommend it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post immediately brought to mind James White&#8217;s _The Galactic Gourmet_, one of his Sector General novels. It basically involves the hospital&#8217;s new master chef attempting to save a strange alien world&#8217;s native species, using fine cuisine. He proves to the rest of the staff that cooking is a lot more important than people realize. The novel is great old-style SF fun, I&#8217;d recommend it.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a lot of varied eating in Anne McCaffrey&#039;s Pern books--do we call those fantasy or sci fi?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot of varied eating in Anne McCaffrey&#8217;s Pern books&#8211;do we call those fantasy or sci fi?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am amazed that Scott Lynch wasn&#039;t brought up in this discussion.

Regardless, quite a a few good points were brought up, and I look forward to digging into them to explore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am amazed that Scott Lynch wasn&#8217;t brought up in this discussion.</p>
<p>Regardless, quite a a few good points were brought up, and I look forward to digging into them to explore.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl V. Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl V. Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 03:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes indeed, and it was a great choice!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes indeed, and it was a great choice!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul (@princejvstin)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul (@princejvstin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE: Immersion. 

Aliette de Bodard, yeah. You do know I asked her to this Mind Meld for good reason, right? :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Immersion. </p>
<p>Aliette de Bodard, yeah. You do know I asked her to this Mind Meld for good reason, right? <img src='http://www.sfsignal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lenora Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenora Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 23:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am frankly amazed that people could talk about food in SF/F and have Steven Brust&#039;s name come up ONCE. He has it all; high meals, low meals, restaurants, meals with significance, quick fuel, serious food appreciation, and of course the obvious and copious research (If only because he himself cooks so much. Not all research involves libraries).

Babylon 5 is another tv source which sometimes did things with expense and scarcity of food, with fine dining and varied rituals.

Food is a major social marker. What kind of food is made, how it&#039;s cooked, whether it&#039;s mass-produced or privately cooked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am frankly amazed that people could talk about food in SF/F and have Steven Brust&#8217;s name come up ONCE. He has it all; high meals, low meals, restaurants, meals with significance, quick fuel, serious food appreciation, and of course the obvious and copious research (If only because he himself cooks so much. Not all research involves libraries).</p>
<p>Babylon 5 is another tv source which sometimes did things with expense and scarcity of food, with fine dining and varied rituals.</p>
<p>Food is a major social marker. What kind of food is made, how it&#8217;s cooked, whether it&#8217;s mass-produced or privately cooked.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl V. Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl V. Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I think of food in fiction my mind immediately goes to the opening scenes of Dracula (not science fiction or fantasy, in my opinion).  Jonathan Harker&#039;s diary entries detailing his meals and notes that he must get the recipes for his beloved Mina.  Makes me salivate any time I read it and it also reminds me of Mike Mignola&#039;s great reference to the novel when Hellboy goes to Transylvania, &quot;Paprika chicken, baby!&quot;.

It is that kind of food experience that is perhaps lacking in science fiction and fantasy, at least to a satisfying degree.  I&#039;ve never understood the idea that progress would mean popping pills.  Who doesn&#039;t like the taste of food, even when in a hurry?  Even fast food offers an arguably satisfying experience from a taste standpoint even if that taste is predominately salt.  To me it has always made sense that if technology made the kind of advancements that would make our lives easier then our desires to savor good food would lead to more time spent consuming and enjoying good meals because of all the free time we would have.

Someone above mentioned &quot;Immersion&quot; which I just read for the second time this week in preparation for Friday&#039;s short story post here on SF Signal (shameless plug) and one of the many things that made the story so endearing is the portrayal of a family owned and run Asian restaurant.  I could practically smell the food as I read it.  &quot;Immersion&quot; is a current example of science fiction where food, although only briefly touched on, is still FOOD and I hope to see much more of that in the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I think of food in fiction my mind immediately goes to the opening scenes of Dracula (not science fiction or fantasy, in my opinion).  Jonathan Harker&#8217;s diary entries detailing his meals and notes that he must get the recipes for his beloved Mina.  Makes me salivate any time I read it and it also reminds me of Mike Mignola&#8217;s great reference to the novel when Hellboy goes to Transylvania, &#8220;Paprika chicken, baby!&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is that kind of food experience that is perhaps lacking in science fiction and fantasy, at least to a satisfying degree.  I&#8217;ve never understood the idea that progress would mean popping pills.  Who doesn&#8217;t like the taste of food, even when in a hurry?  Even fast food offers an arguably satisfying experience from a taste standpoint even if that taste is predominately salt.  To me it has always made sense that if technology made the kind of advancements that would make our lives easier then our desires to savor good food would lead to more time spent consuming and enjoying good meals because of all the free time we would have.</p>
<p>Someone above mentioned &#8220;Immersion&#8221; which I just read for the second time this week in preparation for Friday&#8217;s short story post here on SF Signal (shameless plug) and one of the many things that made the story so endearing is the portrayal of a family owned and run Asian restaurant.  I could practically smell the food as I read it.  &#8220;Immersion&#8221; is a current example of science fiction where food, although only briefly touched on, is still FOOD and I hope to see much more of that in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul (@princejvstin)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul (@princejvstin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a very Vancian mode, yes, agreed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a very Vancian mode, yes, agreed.</p>
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		<title>By: TheAdlerian</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheAdlerian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matthew Hughes includes unique food ideas in his stories!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew Hughes includes unique food ideas in his stories!</p>
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