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	<title>Comments on: Words and Pictures: Prophet</title>
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		<title>By: Scott Laz</title>
		<link>http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2013/02/words-and-pictures-prophet/#comment-132579</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Laz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 23:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the reply. I agree with your take on it. There&#039;s no reason Hugo voters have to agree with the comics critics or audience, necessarily. I would just hope we could reach the point where most of the best SF comics can somehow up on the nomination list, so that SF fans who don&#039;t follow comics will hear about them. Last year&#039;s shortlist actually wasn&#039;t bad, but the winner was the one entry that I hadn&#039;t heard of or read!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply. I agree with your take on it. There&#8217;s no reason Hugo voters have to agree with the comics critics or audience, necessarily. I would just hope we could reach the point where most of the best SF comics can somehow up on the nomination list, so that SF fans who don&#8217;t follow comics will hear about them. Last year&#8217;s shortlist actually wasn&#8217;t bad, but the winner was the one entry that I hadn&#8217;t heard of or read!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Ruckley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Ruckley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 20:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good to hear!  And yes, on the whole the Hugo isn&#039;t a particularly big deal to most mainstream comics folk (although there are exceptions: I&#039;m sure Paul Cornell would be &lt;em&gt;extremely&lt;/em&gt; happy to get a nomination or win for Saucer Country).  

The whole comics in the Hugos thing is interesting and complicated.  I could easily write whole columns about it, but I don&#039;t suppose anyone wants to see me getting on my soapbox at such length.

(I&#039;ll just get on my sopabox briefly here, instead)

If you look at the &lt;em&gt;full&lt;/em&gt; lists of nominated comics, as opposed to just the handful that get through onto the final short list, they&#039;re notable for their diversity and credibility.  They generally include most of the stuff that the comics commentariat would agree is the best of the best; it&#039;s just that a lot of that stuff doesn&#039;t get &lt;em&gt;enough&lt;/em&gt; nominations to reach the final vote because not quite enough folks are reading it.  So the awareness is there in the sf community, but not terribly widley distributed.  That&#039;s nobody&#039;s fault, unless it&#039;s the comics industry&#039;s, for having allowed their medium to decline from a mass market to a niche.

Like I said, I&#039;ve got no doubt &lt;em&gt;Saga&lt;/em&gt; will get onto the final Hugo ballot.  Assuming that&#039;s the case, it&#039;ll be fascinating to see what happens, because it&#039;s going to absolutely clean up in comics industry awards in the next year or two.  There&#039;s a very, very widely shared view that it&#039;s by some distance the best thing to come along in quite a while.  So the folks who really know &lt;em&gt;comics&lt;/em&gt; mostly think the best comic out there at the moment - on both technical craft and entertainment terms - bar none, is an sf/fantasy epic.  Are the sf/fantasy folk who decide the Hugo going to disagree?  We&#039;ll see ...

By the time I&#039;d finished writing this column I&#039;d almost come round to the idea that personally I&#039;d give the Hugo to Prophet rather than Saga, and there are any number of other plausible contenders, so I don&#039;t think Saga &lt;em&gt;has&lt;/em&gt; to win or anything, but if it doesn&#039;t it&#039;d be fascinating to try to understand why not.  It&#039;s certainly got the sales figures to support a run for the rocketship (unlike Prophet :( ).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to hear!  And yes, on the whole the Hugo isn&#8217;t a particularly big deal to most mainstream comics folk (although there are exceptions: I&#8217;m sure Paul Cornell would be <em>extremely</em> happy to get a nomination or win for Saucer Country).  </p>
<p>The whole comics in the Hugos thing is interesting and complicated.  I could easily write whole columns about it, but I don&#8217;t suppose anyone wants to see me getting on my soapbox at such length.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;ll just get on my sopabox briefly here, instead)</p>
<p>If you look at the <em>full</em> lists of nominated comics, as opposed to just the handful that get through onto the final short list, they&#8217;re notable for their diversity and credibility.  They generally include most of the stuff that the comics commentariat would agree is the best of the best; it&#8217;s just that a lot of that stuff doesn&#8217;t get <em>enough</em> nominations to reach the final vote because not quite enough folks are reading it.  So the awareness is there in the sf community, but not terribly widley distributed.  That&#8217;s nobody&#8217;s fault, unless it&#8217;s the comics industry&#8217;s, for having allowed their medium to decline from a mass market to a niche.</p>
<p>Like I said, I&#8217;ve got no doubt <em>Saga</em> will get onto the final Hugo ballot.  Assuming that&#8217;s the case, it&#8217;ll be fascinating to see what happens, because it&#8217;s going to absolutely clean up in comics industry awards in the next year or two.  There&#8217;s a very, very widely shared view that it&#8217;s by some distance the best thing to come along in quite a while.  So the folks who really know <em>comics</em> mostly think the best comic out there at the moment &#8211; on both technical craft and entertainment terms &#8211; bar none, is an sf/fantasy epic.  Are the sf/fantasy folk who decide the Hugo going to disagree?  We&#8217;ll see &#8230;</p>
<p>By the time I&#8217;d finished writing this column I&#8217;d almost come round to the idea that personally I&#8217;d give the Hugo to Prophet rather than Saga, and there are any number of other plausible contenders, so I don&#8217;t think Saga <em>has</em> to win or anything, but if it doesn&#8217;t it&#8217;d be fascinating to try to understand why not.  It&#8217;s certainly got the sales figures to support a run for the rocketship (unlike Prophet <img src='http://www.sfsignal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  ).</p>
<p>(dismounts from sopabox)</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Laz</title>
		<link>http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2013/02/words-and-pictures-prophet/#comment-132571</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Laz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 19:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m nominating Prophet. A dozen issues in, though still occasionally a bit baffling, it&#039;s the comic I look forward to the most every month, possibly even more for the art than the story, though it&#039;s a great example of how they work together in comics. The Hugo probably shouldn&#039;t matter much to the comics world, since voters have shown a very limited awareness of what&#039;s being done with SF in comics, but hopefully the existence of the category will increase SF fans&#039; willingness to check out the good stuff. With Prophet, Saga, Saucer Country, among others, it seemed like an especially good year for SF comics...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m nominating Prophet. A dozen issues in, though still occasionally a bit baffling, it&#8217;s the comic I look forward to the most every month, possibly even more for the art than the story, though it&#8217;s a great example of how they work together in comics. The Hugo probably shouldn&#8217;t matter much to the comics world, since voters have shown a very limited awareness of what&#8217;s being done with SF in comics, but hopefully the existence of the category will increase SF fans&#8217; willingness to check out the good stuff. With Prophet, Saga, Saucer Country, among others, it seemed like an especially good year for SF comics&#8230;</p>
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