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The SF Signal Podcast (Episode 173): The Massive List of 2013 Hugo Ballot Suggestions

In episode 173 of the SF Signal Podcast, Patrick Hester asks his motley crew of mis-fit panelists to discuss: Who is on your 2013 Hugo Nomination Ballot?

This is a long podcast! Fair Warning! Tons of show notes after the jump.

This week’s panel:

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Featuring original music by John Anealio

Show Notes:

I’ve tried to include story/author names everywhere I could.

Categories include:

Best Novel

Best Novella

Best Novelette

  • Jeff: “The Ways” by Ken Liu (Citation? I can’t find it) [Jeff, Paul]

Best Short Story

  • “Tyche and the Ants” by Hannu Rajaniemi [Jeff]
  • “The Waves” by Ken Liu [Jeff]
  • “Beautiful Boys” by by Theodora Goss [Jeff]
  • “Death Reported of the Last Surviving Veteran of Great War” by Dan Abnett [Jeff]
  • “The Patrician” by Tansy Rayner Roberts [Paul]
  • “Secret Bestiary” [Paul]
  • “Drive” [Paul]
  • “The Girl Thing That Went Out For Sushi” by Pat Cadigan [Paul]
  • “Safety Tests” [Paul]
  • “Desire” by Kiini Ibura Salaam [John]
  • “Immersion” by Aliette de Bodard [John]
  • “The Telling” By Gregory Norman Bossert [John]
  • “A Hundred Ghosts Parade Tonight” by Xia Jia, translated by Ken Liu [John]
  • “Armless Maidens of the American West” by Genevieve Valentine [Janet Harriet via Twitter]
  • “A Handful of Glass, a Sky without Stars” by Damien Walters Grintalis [Janet Harriet via Twitter]
  • “Glass Boxes and Clockwork Gods” by Damien Walters Grintalis [Janet Harriet via Twitter]
  • “The Jamcoi” by J.M. McDermott [Janet Harriet via Twitter]

Best Related Work

Best Graphic Story

  • Saga, Vol 1 [Jeff, Patrick]
  • Lauren Beukes’ run on Fables [Paul]
  • Looking For Group [Patrick]

Best Dramatic Presentation “Long Form”

  • Marvel’s The Avengers [Paul, Patrick]
  • Cabin in the Woods [Paul]
  • Blastic The Seven Wilds [John]
  • Safety Not Guaranteed [John]
  • Chronicle [Patrick]
  • Cabin in the Woods [Patrick]
  • Life of Pi [Patrick]
  • Dredd [Patrick]

Best Dramatic Presentation “Short Form”

  • Doctor Who: “The Power of 3” [Jeff]
  • Primeval “New World” (pilot) [Jeff]
  • Doctor Who: “Asylum of the Daleks” [Paul]
  • Downton Abbey (because so many genre fans are obsessed with the show) [John]
  • The Walking Dead Season 3 [John, Patrick]
  • Fringe: “Making Angels” [Patrick]
  • Alphas [Patrick]
  • Young Justice [Patrick]
  • The Legend of Korra [Patrick]
  • Eureka [Patrick]

Best Editor Long Form – We had some trouble here and would love to hear reader/listener suggestions in the comments!

Best Editor Short Form – We had some trouble here and would love to hear reader/listener suggestions in the comments!

  • Collective thoughts:
    • John Joseph Adams
    • Carrie Cuinn
    • Jonathon Strahan
    • Lynne Thomas
    • Amanda Rotter

Best Professional Artist – We had some trouble here and would love to hear reader/listener suggestions in the comments!

Best Semiprozine – We had some trouble here and would love to hear reader/listener suggestions in the comments!

  • Apex? [Patrick]
  • Electric Velocipede? [Patrick]

Best Fanzine – We had some trouble here and would love to hear reader/listener suggestions in the comments!

  • A Dribble of Ink [Paul]
  • Bookworm Blues [Paul]
  • Functional Nerds [Paul]
  • SF Signal [Patrick]

Best Fancast

  • Collective Thoughts:
    • SF Signal
    • SF Squeecast
    • Coode Street
    • SF Crossing the Gulf
    • Functional Nerds
    • Skiffy and Fanty
    • Speculate
    • Slice of Scifi
    • (There’s way more…)

Best Fan Writer – We had some trouble here and would love to hear reader/listener suggestions in the comments!

Best Fan Artist – We had some trouble here and would love to hear reader/listener suggestions in the comments!

The John W. Campbell Award

The John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer is not a Hugo. It is voted for and presented alongside the Hugos, but the eligibility rules are not governed by the WSFS Constitution. The John W. Campbell Award is given to the best new science fiction or fantasy writer whose first work of science fiction or fantasy was published in a professional publication in the previous two years. For the 2013 award, which is presented at the World Science Fiction Convention (WorldCon), the qualifying work must have been published in 2011 or 2012.

  • Courtney Schafer [Paul]
  • Teresa Frohock [Paul]
  • Patrick: I am torn between Stina and Mur, once again. Both are wonderful and deserve a nomination and a win.
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28 Comments on The SF Signal Podcast (Episode 173): The Massive List of 2013 Hugo Ballot Suggestions

  1. Thanks for the notes.

  2. Jeff Patterson // January 28, 2013 at 5:56 am //

    The Waves and Tyche and the Ants were by Ken Liu.
    Beautiful Boys was by Theodora Goss
    “Death Reported of the Last Surviving Veteran of Great War” was by Dan Abnett, in the Armored anthology.

  3. Good picks. For best novel, I would add Kim Stanley Robinson’s 2312. As far as hard scifi, I found it much more entertaining than EXISTENCE. 2312 explores colonization of the solar system like no book I’ve read. His concept for life on Mercury is amazing.

    Hugh Howey’s Wool Omnibus (if it qualifies) would be my top pick. It represents the shift caused by the eBook revolution and was a pure joy to read with respectable writing and intriguing characters and setting.

    The novels I am most interested in from the podcast (that I am yet to read) are THE TROUPE and vN.

    For graphic novels, I agree with SAGA. THE UNDERWATER WELDER was also gratifying, but is a stretch given the minimalist artwork.

  4. I must say, I think the suggestion that Myke Cole might appear on the Hugo shortlist seriously damages your credibility as it makes it look like a) you’re talking up the people who appear on the podcast and b) that you really have no idea what it is that Hugo voters tend to go for.

    • Jonathan,

      It was pointed out that my picks were unrealistic and unlikely to be nominated.

      Also, this was a podcast of what we’d *like* to see, not who we thought would *be* on the ballot.

      • Even if your choices were supposed to be a sort of fantasy ballot, I think you damaged your credibility by looking past:

        a) The novels that moved the genre forward stylistically and conceptually.

        b) The novels written by people who have been historically excluded from the process as a result of institutional sexism and racism.

        Even the presenter tried to get you to reconsider your choice but *still* you looked past both of these categories and went for a white dude who produces undemanding populist MilSF with a fantasy twist. That was a poor decision.

        • Jeff Patterson // January 28, 2013 at 1:40 pm //

          After an examination of nominees and winners for the last 20 years, especially in shorter work categories, I would posit that sexism and racism in Hugos is, currently, statistically very small.
          Also, it is voted on by eligible members of hosting Worldcons, so it couldn’t really be considered “institutional”.
          And, as mentioned, Harry Potter won a Hugo, and that was possibly the most undemanding (not to mention derivative and sophomoric) book nominated ever (and that’s saying a LOT). Hugo voters have gleefully embraced a lot of crap in their history.

          • I don’t think institutional means what you think it means. Non-male, non-white writers have less chance to get noticed by the eligible members, because that bias is built into the entire publishing industry when it comes to SF/F.

  5. I would give the Hugo to Peter F. Hamilton’s Great North Road, since I finished it, but didn’t finish the Reynolds, Banks, or Brin.

    • Jeff Patterson // January 28, 2013 at 9:55 am //

      It’d be nice if all four (+Robinson) made the cut, but I doubt I’ll see an all-SF best Novel ballot again in my lifetime.

  6. John E. O. Stevens // January 28, 2013 at 8:35 am //

    Apologies for not getting to the end, but I had a retching dog to deal with unexpectedly.

    One clarification for now: the Moorcock collection is is LONDON PECULIAR AND OTHER NONFICTIONS from PM Press, edited by Moorcock and Allan Kausch. I reviewed it here at SF Signal:

  7. Steve Oerkfitz // January 28, 2013 at 10:02 am //

    I would add Railsea by China Mieville.

  8. John E. O. Stevens // January 28, 2013 at 12:20 pm //

    And also, the movie was Beasts of the Southern Wild:

  9. I’m thrilled to see you mention ‘Beast of the Souther Wild’, John. It will absolutely be included when I cast my ballot.

    Also, thanks for the mention for A Dribble of Ink! It’s very much appreciate, and I’m glad you all enjoy my blog.

  10. Hum, wasn’t “Tyche and the Ants” by Hannu Rajaniemi?
    (also, wow. Thank you John for the kind words on “Immersion”!)

  11. Joerg Grau // January 29, 2013 at 9:22 am //

    I have been reading Locus for a good 15+ years and I think it should always be at least nominated for best zine…

    • Because who needs variety in their award nominations anyway…

    • Locus is no longer eligible for best Semiprozine. The rules changed last year and they are now considered professional, in Hugo terms. Editors at Locus can compete in the editor category, but there isn’t a standalone best professional magazine category to nominate Locus in. (This is the same case for Asimov’s, F&SF, and others.)

      If you are looking for a list of people to consider for Best Semiprozine, check out

  12. Captain America: First Avenger was nominated last year, so I think Avengers getting nominated is easy enough this one. Also recall that super-popular properties Game of Thrones and Inception won the previous two years. The overwhelming popularity of Avengers will probably give it the award, even though it’s hardly the best Speculative Fiction film of the least year. Not nearly as many people will have seen Beasts of the Southern Wild or The Wolf Children Ame and Yumi, and even if they had, the popcorn appeal isn’t there. Joss Whedon’s power in he nerd community is more than a little scary. Was very happy to hear Beasts get a shout out!

    And I’ll be very happy if Legend of Korra picks up a nomination.

  13. Great list.
    My suggestion for Best Semi-Prozine:
    Something Wicked Magazine

  14. Editor long form vs Editor short form. how do I know if a work is a longform or a shortform?

    Can I nominate editors of an anthology that i loved that was published in 2012, but many of the entries in the anthology are much older?

    the toughest thing at the moment is figuring out which works I read last year that were actually published in ’12 and qualify.

  15. Long Form editors other than those mentioned on the podcast are Devi Pillai (Orbit US), Gillian Redfearn, Simon Spanton and Marcus Gipps (all Gollancz), Jonathan Oliver and David Moore (Solaris), Bella Pagan and Julie Crisp (TOR UK), Jo Fletcher (Jo Fletcher Books), Anne Sowards (Penguin), Anne Clarke (Orbit UK), Amy McCulloch (HarperVoyager). I think most of them would qualify for last year, except perhaps Julie Crisp as she was away on leave for a large part of the year, so I can’t be sure she actually edited four titles.

    Those are just the names from my Twitter feed, but they might serve as inspiration 🙂

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